/tv/ - Movies and Television

I don't think the ignorance makes that much of a difference.

I've had sex for real, yet find that good VR porn with a fleshlight comes pretty close to being just as pleasurable.
I find it engaging, fulfilling and rewarding to converse with AI chatbots, sometimes moreso than talking to real people, despite knowing there's no real consciousness behind there.
Eating simulated food would have huge benefits like not needing to worry about health effects and weight gain, which might still be issues in the proper Matrix that's trying to trick you, but non in a separate dining sim built to let you eat whatever you want

>>356847
When the Oracle says to Neo "You didn't come here to make the choice, you've already made it. You're here to try to understand why you made it.", those words had a profound impact on my entire life. Reloaded and Revolutions are underrated. The first three Matrix films are each masterpieces in their own ways and changed the way I think of free will and 'reality'. Resurrections is garbage, though. The first three Matrix films were unironically dropping profound red pills about the nature of free will.

Time is illusory, just like space, solidity and everything else besides Pure Consciousness. What people call 'movement' is an illusion. Nothing ever truly moves, every moment is like a frame in a television show. When you watch a television show, it looks like you're seeing moving images, but the images you are seeing are not moving at all. You are seeing one frozen image after another in rapid succession, so it looks as though you are seeing moving images (even though you're not). Time is like that. Every moment in our lives is like a frozen image, an eternity of its own. Another way of looking at this is to think of your life as a movie on a DVD. Your attention is focused on a certain part of the movie (what we call 'the present'), but the entire movie is already on the disc. The parts of the movie you already saw are what we call 'the past' and the parts of the movie you haven't seen yet are what we call 'the future'.

Everyone is Pure Consciousness, which is infinite and eternal, experiencing life in a temporary human form. You can call Pure Consciousness 'God' if you want, but I don't, because the word 'God' has limiting religious connotations that I would rather avoid. Pure Consciousness has free will, but when it assumes temporary human forms (which are us), it experiences predetermined lives. Everything you experience in your life (right down to the most trivial details) was chosen by your true self, Pure Consciousness. Even when some guy on the street punches you in the face. You chose to be punched in the face for whatever reason. I know this is hard to accept. I genuinely do. But it's true all the same. So at the physical level of 'reality' where we are bound by time, there is no free will. But at the most fundamental level of 'reality' where we are beyond time, there IS free will.

>>356847
Honestly, give Cypher Trinity and a good steak and he would've been happy.

>>356862
Fuck the jews

Yeah interesting point, OP. I don't think a single person would pick the blue pill when given the choice. Everyone would pick the red pill. You'd have to be a complete retard to not want to pick it. And if you were a retard, even if for argument's sake you were approached by Morpheus, you wouldn't be smart enough to realize the benefits of picking the blue pill.
Zion should have a whole minority of people regretting their choice after that and it's an underexplored theme in the trilogy. Of course with three movies it's understandable you wouldn't want to waste time on that shit, but I wonder if it was ever explored in the Matrix MMO. For example, that old comic book series, Transmetropolitan, dedicated multiple issues to whacky hypothetical future minorities.

As an aside, the actual concept of a simulated reality and questioning reality itself was handled much better in the novel Counterfeit World/Simulacron-3 by Daniel Galouye, which is the book that the 13th Floor movie was based on. I won't say the 13th Floor was a better movie than the Matrix, but it was definitely better at exploring the concept of a simulated reality.

>>356847
A.she(switch) hit me
B.that wasnt my program she was downloading
C.SHE WAS A WHOAH (trinity)
D.there was a lotta virtual wine that night
E.its the fucking virtual steaks,fucking matrix its everywhere

>>356862
Very good post anon.made me think actually. What do you think about dejavu? Sometimes i see things in my dreams and they come true some months or years later,this has happened more than a few times so its not a coincidence.ive also noticed that there are a lot of people who have predictive dreams so maybe gopi krishna was right? He believed that the entire human race is going theough a psychic awakening. What do you think?

he betrayed the cause of Morpheus just because he hated the slop he was eating

If you betray your own kind because you can't handle canned goods and are autistic enough to not get any pussy, then you deserve to be electrocuted to death.

>>356882
Nta but as a kid that would happen to me a lot and a couple of times I was quick enough to tell people what was about to happen. It worries me because I've had a recurring dream all my life which I really don't want to come true.
I think doing drugs for a long period of time destroyed the ability along with being able to lucid dream and not being a total retard

>deja vu
I literally recently remembered a memory that I also had when I was a boy of an event that recently happened. Unsure if soyence can ever explain it.

>>356888
>>356886
Ive had this recurring dream ever since i was a boy,im standing under a weeping willow tree,there i find a blonde girl with green eyes, like shades of jade and blonde hair like a lions mane,petite and thin with slavic features,she is carefree and i am happy. in the dream she loves me and I feel the warmth of evergreen love for her, a love more ancient than our times as if from a previous life, we embrace and i tell her we'll be together forever and she kisses me.Thats when i wake up. I see this dream every spring in april.It is a sweet dream and one i was happy to share with the other anons ITT.I wish you all the best.

(Its funny because all my ex gfs have been brunettes)

>>356884
Or least have his echochamber shut down.

>>356847
Matrix is such an overrated slop, all the best ideas are stolen from books and cucknime, this entire "what's real???" peaked with Philip K. Dick back in the 60's. Nothing about the flick is original.

>>356862
Good post. But if we don't have free will here on some level, how do you account for people who are skilled at manifestation? Is it because they've learned to connect their consciousness with their higher self? Were they predestined to develop their abilities?
>You can call Pure Consciousness 'God' if you want, but I don't, because the word 'God' has limiting religious connotations that I would rather avoid.
That's my problem with it too. Israel Regardie wrote a piece about Neville Goddard where he basically referred to him as an atheist, and if you think about what the word "God" means to most people that's true. I don't like the term for that reason.
>>356899
The first movie is pretty good for what it is.

>>356882

>Very good post anon.

Thank you for your kind words, other me.

>What do you think about dejavu?

I think déjà vu is just us remembering the choices we made before we were born into this world.

>He believed that the entire human race is going theough a psychic awakening. What do you think?

I think anything is possible in a universe that is illusory to begin with.

>>356913

>Good post.

Thanks for the kind words, other me.

>But if we don't have free will here on some level, how do you account for people who are skilled at manifestation? Is it because they've learned to connect their consciousness with their higher self? Were they predestined to develop their abilities?

If you change your life or make the world a better place, that's only because you chose to do that before you were born into this world. We had free will before we were born into this world and we "don't" have free will in this world, but the only reason why we "don't" have free will in this world is because we chose to "not" have free will in this world because while we're in this world, we're basically just playing out all of the choices we made for ourselves before we were born into this world. So ultimately we never truly lose our free will.

>>356916

Yes. I am another you and you are another me.

>>356870
She might have resented the reality of her being very, very privileged instead of a poor and struggling brown body in a sexist and racist society or whatever it might be that she identified with. She was slumming it in her youth and probably wanted some of that oppression she couldn't get any other way because she was rich and upper class.

Does anyone know how long the video was up before dad bought the rights to it?

>>356955
>we're basically just playing out all of the choices we made for ourselves before we were born into this world.
I have long had this exact suspicion,never expected the other players to have the same theories.do you think we are dreaming? Or is it like stasis? Simulation? I know everything is fake , but where is our true body? Do we wake up once we die? Or are we hooked onto machines in a simulation?is it like the virtual reality game in red dwarf?

Also when we are making prelife choices,do we get dice rolls for our starting attributes or is it just random? I mean nobody would choose to be a poorfag on purpose, also i have the sneaking suspicion that most people are not real or at least do not have a soul.

>>356960
>I mean nobody would choose to be a poorfag on purpose
You don't know that and that's the point. A person might choose to be a poorfag because of the learning opportunities that come with being a poorfag. Also, voluntary poverty has been a thing for literally thousands of years. Remember that you didn't come here to make the choice because you already made the choice, you're here to understand WHY you made the choice. Think of this world as being like a school. If you learn the lessons you came here to learn, you'll graduate and move on to somewhere better. But if you don't learn the lessons you came here to learn, you'll keep coming back here until you do.
>also i have the sneaking suspicion that most people are not real or at least do not have a soul.
It's interesting that you mentioned this, as I was talking on 4chan (yes, it's back) about this topic literally a few minutes ago. What I said on 4chan is what I will also say here: Looking into the simulation theory made me realise that some people really COULD be literal NPCs, as in programs (like in The Matrix) that don't have souls but outwardly appear to be people just like you and I. David Icke called these programs 'red dresses' (after the lady in the red dress from The Matrix).

>>356964
>You don't know that and that's the point. A person might choose to be a poorfag because of the learning opportunities that come with being a poorfag
To be fair i usually play as a murderhobo in rpgs and other games like mount and blade or fallout/skyrim so i can see the appeal if i was to play a game.which this life might very well be one.

>some people really COULD be literal NPCs, as in programs (like in The Matrix) that don't have souls but outwardly appear to be people just like you and I. David Icke called these programs 'red dresses' (after the lady in the red dress from The Matrix).
This is a very terrifying theory, the fact that some of our loved ones could be fake or empty qlippoths.

I dont really know why i chose this life,i dont even know about the starting choices that i made. I probably had a good dice roll to be honest. Still i do feel that god watches over me.ive had dreams of holy figures which ive never divulged to anyone because i dont want to devalue the experience or devalue their name.

How do i know which choices ive made? Is it financial? Ethical? Race? Religion?

>>356969
>the fact that some of our loved ones could be fake or empty qlippoths.
If I remember correctly, David Icke said that the 'red dresses' are people in positions of power that influence global affairs. So they're probably not our loved ones.
>How do i know which choices ive made?
Simple. You made all of them.

>>356955
>If you change your life or make the world a better place, that's only because you chose to do that before you were born into this world. We had free will before we were born into this world and we "don't" have free will in this world, but the only reason why we "don't" have free will in this world is because we chose to "not" have free will in this world because while we're in this world, we're basically just playing out all of the choices we made for ourselves before we were born into this world. So ultimately we never truly lose our free will.
I kind of think that we have some degree of free will here. There's a section in a Robert Monroe book where, if I remember right, the author learns that he has an overlapping incarnation in the form of a Russian woman while he was living his life as Robert Monroe and was told that it was done because it was unclear whether or not he would be as successful as hoped. I've read another opinion from a Joseph Murphy enthusiast who stated that we have no free will in our lives except through through the manifestation process.

And under the B-theory of time, would the idea of planning out our lives "before" we've incarnated even be meaningful? Wouldn't that entail some level of temporality?

>>356992
>I kind of think that we have some degree of free will here.
We're experiencing time here, so we "can't" have free will here. Time is just something that prevents everything from happening all at once.

>>357081
Time is a human construct however and doesnt exist. Humans age because their bodies undergo chemical deterioration, we experience seasons because the earth moves through space etc… Time doesnt exist,this simple fact is the achilles heel of modern physics and metaphysics

>>356956
Can you even see it anymore?

>>356847
>what difference is there between the electrical signals that your brain interprets as the so-called 'real world' and the electrical signals that your brain interprets as the Matrix
reality doesn't revolve around you
your question boils down to 'what difference between your perception of X and your perception of Y' well that's the thing nobody cares about your perception
it's your perception
we're talking about reality

also >>356870

>>358226
Being a flat earther is kinda retarded though. Let me play devil's advocate and say even if its true most people would instantly not take anything you say seriously.

>>358229
I live right next to the sea and I can see the curvature of the Earth.
Flat earthers are either extremely mentally ill or false flagging glowniggers.

>>358233
Hey let me say that it certainly would be cooler if the earth was flat, but it doesn't seem that way to me either, I've hiked up hills and I can also see the curvature of the earth.

>>356872
FFFFFucking hell that looks like it, a movie i saw 20 years ago on TV, never saw it anywhere else again so i thought it was a very obscure C-list and a couple of years ago i was writing a script from the things i remembered from it.

NNNNevermind that's not it but the poster is very reminiscent, my search continues to avoid falling into a copyright hole.

>>358233
YOUR EYES DECEIVE YOU

>>356858
Which ai chatbots? They're all stupid repetitive and have no memory lol. I wish they were good lol

>>356847
>what difference is there between the electrical signals that your brain interprets as the so-called 'real world'
The difference is that your ElEcTrIcAl SiGnAlS are only in your head whereas the world is outside and experience by everyone, which is also why "b-b-but it's real in my head!!" isn't grounds for people to play along whatever stupid delusion you're having.

>b-b-buts from my perspective there is no diff-
Nobody gives a damn about your perspective.
Shut up.

>>360455
Mannnnnn shut y0 b1tch azz up cracka