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Tatooine has 2 moons and hash a harsh environment, also retcons.

As a kid I thought that they would make A new hope again with an aged Ewan Mcgregor but he aged pretty well

>>357852
another happy landing, no wall for Obi.

>>357851
Actually it has 3 moons but I guess you mean 2 suns, which probably wouldn't be good for the skin in a desert planet.

How did obi wan make this sound? Where did he learn it from?

>>357848
A Harsh life full of adversity and struggle can do that to you. I know a widow who is 30 but looks like a 50 year old simply because she has to raise 3 kids all by herself on a meager minimum wage salary.

How was a 9 year old Anakin able to fly a starfighter in battle and take down the trade federation?
>Podracing
How does Podracing skills transfer to flying skills?
And how did the republic allow a 9 year old boy with no experience to join their army as a child soldier?

>>357857
Sebastian Shaw did it best tbh

>>357859
>I know a widow who is 30 but looks like a 50 year old simply because she has to raise 3 kids all by herself on a meager minimum wage salary.
What's your relation to her? Why don't you wife her and give those children a future?

>>357863
He is supposed to be a supergifted genius or something haven't you watched the movie?
>>357867
Please, I've got enough problems of my own.

>>357867
Why raise another mans kids who aren't my own and will never respect me?

>>357871
>Why raise another mans kids who aren't my own
It's all good if they are your racial kin.
>and will never respect me
Why wouldn't they respect you?

>>357873
I always look out for my own race but I'm not raising another man's kids as if they were my own.
>>357858
Living among sand people makes you good at pretending to be their predators.

Angloid genes

>>357875
Ikaros?

>>357848

Being a coward and running away while the galaxy is enslaved by evil would take a toll on anybody.

>>357881
>Evil
What are you talking about? You ate the rebel propaganda and you're shitting out of your mouth.

>acts like a crackhead the first time he met luke
>didn't want to train him because he's 'too old' despite being the only hope
>told luke to leave his friends to die
>when luke leaves he says 'there is another', implying he thinks luke is expendable
>trains luke only for a year and tells him to kill his father
>basically got btfo when luke redeemed his father than killing him
And then the prequels
>sith hasn't been seen in a 1000 years
>lived 900 years and became the grandmaster for 800 of them to be the 'wisest' jedi ever
>didn't believe the sith came back
>couldn't detect the sith despite being in the same room
>two of his pupils became galaxy changing sith lords
>spends all his time 'training' younglings who he steals from their parents
>9 year old Anakin was too old for him
>sheev btfo'd him so bad he ran away and became a hermit living off shrooms for 20 years

Biggest hack in the galaxy?

>>358012
Literally the dumbest nigger ever

sheev dying was the funniest scene, to go from him zapping luke and vader contemplating to simply being picked up and thrown down with lighting shooting out of his fingers, the whole thing was hilarious, burst out laughing

>>358012
Anakin was too old at preteen age, and he destroyed the order. Fuck yeah he has a hesitance to train a young adult.

Star Wars Demystified

The Force Awakens is a commercial enterprise, not art.

By Armond White

Everyone knows the Star Wars series peaked with that confrontation in The Empire Strikes Back (1980) between Luke Skywalker (Mark Hamill) and the villain, Darth Vader (played on screen by David Prowse, but voiced by James Earl Jones).

The "Luke, I am your father" revelation resonated because it expressed how George Lucas, like his movie-brat peers (Coppola, Bogdanovich, Scorsese, Spielberg, De Palma) struggled with Sixties generational ambivalence. A father-son antagonism resounds through all their films as a reflection of Vietnam-era student protests and the privilege of those draft-dodging filmmaker progeny. Even Lucas, in his escapist outer-space mode, iterated the era's unease, culminating in Luke's fear and symbolic castration.

It's seldom realized that the movie brats' films are essentially conservative, politically speaking. Yet, in the new millennium, filmgoers' superficial political awareness makes them nostalgic for Star Wars to maintain the gullibility of their youth. Longing for innocence is all that the insipidness of the latest sequel, The Force Awakens, signifies. When director J. J. Abrams re-stages that primal moment, he does it for brand recognition, but so unimaginatively that it feels hackneyed. Even though it's meant to be painful for rabid Star Wars fanatics, it lacks mythological significance. Star Wars fans are not required to think metaphorically, so any Oedipal meaning is lost (although there is something of millennial ingratitude in the new filial confrontation), just as the original scene's impact was ignored in subsequent sequels.

The new characters in The Force Awakens are banal. John Boyega's black superhero, Finn, updates and restyles Han Solo's jockish heroism - a cultural evolution that evokes Obama ("I was taken from a family I'll never know") for global commercialism. Boyega is appealing-enough to surpass the series' previous racial tokens, Billy Dee Williams and Samuel L. Jackson, but he is subordinate to the new gallantry of Daisy Ridley's Rey, who embodies the female empowerment denied to Princess (now General) Leia. Rey "leans in" when she grips the Skywalker light saber, so that feminists can rejoice at the Disney Corporation's calculated political correctness (although Rey's competence with weaponry contradicts liberals' convenient attitudes toward gun control.)

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By now we all should know that there's nothing of adult interest in Star Wars. Even when it premiered back in 1977, the sci-fi premise and comic-book characters were eclipsed artistically by the visionary spirituality of Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Yet the continued prominence of Star Wars signifies something that is politically serious, if not dreadful: The great renaissance of American filmmaking during the 1970s and its regeneration of film culture (when movies were seen as a vital means of approaching and understanding contemporary experience) were doomed by Star Wars' pseudo-imaginative, non-campy rehash of escapist junk. Now, the rebooted, politically empty The Force Awakens suggests a boot stuck in the rear of film culture's flabby remains.

The Force Awakens is a bread-and-circuses carnival (disguised as "The Rapture," a young videomaker told me) that is intended to keep millennial audiences docile. Maybe that explains the film's unavoidable sell and both the media's and the public's desperate genuflection. Love of Star Wars is not love of cinema, just consumerist habit. The Star Wars Generation - that unfortunate rabble primed to see these films at the precise moment they were becoming culturally responsive - are not necessarily the audience the movie brats deserved; they're spawn of Baby Boomer affluence and narcissism. Star Wars turned their natural curiosity and wonder into self-satisfaction, artificially dependent on media and merchandising (a tragedy also evident in Apple and Pixar evangelism).

TV-show runner J. J. Abrams brings his game-changing banality to the Star Wars franchise. He follows the template as originated by Lucas and appeals to adolescent thralldom, keeping the brand recognizable. The Force Awakens is paced better than Star Wars' other dismal episodes, yet it's even more impersonal. There's no visual or spiritual excitement, as there was even in a cynical sci-fi product like Ridley Scott's Prometheus. Abrams is making product to salute the cultural and economic status quo. With Star Wars, product has not only taken the place of art; it has replaced myth.

When scholar Joseph Campbell hopped on the bandwagon, selling Star Wars' sci-fi archetypes, he distorted mythology and anthropology. But since then (after 9/11) Western cinema's narrative drive can seem to have capitulated. In the three-part Arabian Nights (The Restless One, The Desolate One, The Enchanted One), director Miguel Gomes surrenders to Western culture's depreciation. His trilogy is an art-movie Star Wars retelling of Portugal's recent economic crisis through the peculiar template of Scheherazade narrating various tales about the European Union.

#related#In this six-hour-plus gallimaufry, Gomes mixes documentary, fantasy, period stories, and personal confession (on Portuguese and Brazilian history) rather than organizing perspectives into a coherent storyline. His critique of capitalism has found favor with critics (who mistake the trilogy for García Márquez's One Hundred Years of Solitude), while the films dispel and frustrate viewers' curiosity about politics, history, sex, folklore, and mythology. Looking to the Orient, Gomes expresses the West's lack of confidence in its own culture. At one point, Scheherazade and her father discuss the significance of narrative.

Father: Where are stories born?

Scheherazade: They spring from the wishes and fears of man.

Father: And what is their purpose?

Scheherazade: To help us survive. To bridge the time of the dead with the time of those to come.

It's a cultural catastrophe that the Star Wars phenomenon, and the worldwide herd-mentality response to it, never raises this dialectic. Meanwhile, Gomes offers an aggravating proposition: Does contemporary Europe conform to Islamic providence? The trilogy is undisciplined cinema but timely politics.

>>357863
>How was a 9 year old Anakin able to fly a starfighter
What a dumbass lol. Everyone knows the droid in the co-pilot slot does half the work.

>>358196
What about the other half?

>>358207
The Droid calculates fucking craft trajectory dumbass

>>358230
get us off this autopilot its gonna get us both killed. R2 helped but little Annie was really that good.

>>358236
Sho nuff. But R2 did pick up any slack there was to take.

Luke's mother was played by a jew so does that make him jewish?

The prequels were as dogshit as the sequels.

>>358443
Shit tier b8

>>358443
Hey Zach

>>358443
The prequels were ambitious cinematic masterpieces misunderstood by the mass of plebes who couldn't appreciate kino if their lives depended on it.
Meanwhile the sequels are cheaply made slop made to appeal to aging old fart soyboys who want to regress back to childhood like the manchildren they are.

>>358443
Almost, but not quite. As bad as they were, they at least had some creativity left at that point and were aiming for something more ambitious.

>>358491
lmao definitely not just "almost" Jesus christ theres literally nothing good about the sequels, completely forgettable trash.

Even with the terrible dialogue and embarassing shit of the prequels there was at least memorable good shit like the battles and worldbuilding and score. And revenge of the sith was good

>>358512
Like at least there was a fucking coherent story in the prequels, even if it was executed badly lol

All the sequels made over a billion dollars yet they are still so unpopular that didney hasn't made a star flick in 6 years and all the tv shows were crap. Though next year they'll release the mandalorian and meme baby yoda movie.

It took over 10 years since ROTS & the release of the sequels for public opinion on the prequels to change. Wonder if in a few more years the Gen Alpha that grew up with the sequels will start saying they were good.

>>358491
>>358449
>>358513
>>358514
Hey reddit letter media gen x nigger your door is on the left. The prequels will always be good.

>>358518
I was born 93 and haven't seen any of the professional reviews. So I'm the core group that grew up with the prequels as millenial childhood nostalgia. So they'll always have a soft spot for me but can't deny the bad parts either lol

They're such beautiful messes so they're both overhated and over loved

I'd give PM and AOTC 6-7/10 and ROTS 7-8/10. None are bad movies, just compared to the OT they fall flat hard. And ofc the meme dialogue, although even then you can chalk up stuff like the stilted AOTC Anakin dialogue to being a young awkward teen lover lol.

Idk it's actually weird to think about how uneven the quality is of the prequels lol like they were custom made to polarized. But AT LEAST there's good parts to call them uneven unlike the fucking sequels lmao which are just pure shit

I like to say the prequels are good ideas executed badly, and the sequels are bad ideas executed well. The good ideas/heart of the movie will always be way more important

>>358512
>Even with the terrible dialogue and embarassing shit of the prequels there was at least memorable good shit like the battles and worldbuilding and score.
The battles weren't very good. There was little sense of tension or investment in the characters.

What the prequels did have going for them was some interesting design choices. These Trade Federation tanks always caught my eye, and so did Hailfire droids. The tripod stance and rolling ability of destroyer droids is kind of neat too.
>>358518
Bait harder.
>>358519
I'm slightly older than you and never liked any of them. All the hype around The Phantom Menace made me want to stay away even at that age, and I didn't watch any of the prequels until after they came out on DVD.

I only ever watched the first one when I was little and I thought the jar jar binks stuff was embarassing and cringy and not funny and all the politics talk confused 13 year old me. Didn't watch any other ones because I just came to the conclusion these are kids' movies that aren't really anything I'm interested in.

Still haven't, either. To this day I've only seen phantom menace.

>>358552
Heh. What an absolute faggot.

>>358558
brainlet wojak is pre-soy era

>>358559
Also there is nothing really wrong with soyjaks anyways or wojaks for that matter.

>>358570
Agreed.

Hey, if you want to see normalgroids doing IRL soyfacing, you should watch HT's OME trolling. Almost every one of them does it as predictably as Pavlov's dog, as soon as he says "nigger."

>>358519
>give PM and AOTC 6-7/10 and ROTS 7-8/10. None are bad movies, just compared to the OT they fall flat hard
How do they fail compared to the OT? You don't seem to dislike the meme dialogue, which is honestly fine. The OT has become very bland for me due to having seen its cliches repeated over and over again by everything. Not to say I still don't enjoy it. Its like saying I hate romcoms cause takahashi-sama has been ripped off 50 million times.
>I like to say the prequels are good ideas executed badly
Except they were executed perfectly, whether you like them or not they came out exactly the way George wanted them. If you watch that video series it puts into better words than I can describe it. I've already posted here before how I personally and I also think objectively the prequels are better films than the OT, even though I like the OT, because I like that George was able to do whatever he wanted and he had a very creative and interesting/entertaining vision for his universe. If you read up information on the OT you would know that the ideas of the prequels always were a part of the drafts of the writings that eventually became the original Star Wars. I didn't like the Empires strikes back as much because the jew directing it was making more le ebil nazi parallels and I found it the most cliche of the films. Still a good movie and was fun to see the rebels get their teethe knocked in.

Of course George doing whatever he wants isn't always good. He was going to reboot star wars and kill the EU with his own plans for a sequel trilogy which was heavily influenced by his leftist views and of course Filoni, the little nigger. He also butchered Grievous in Revenge of the Sith from being the cool killing machine he was in the EU, which might I add he approved of the entire time, and this is because George can be retarded like that. If George needs a leash lets have the one tugging on his throat not be a subversive manchild, a jew, or a dumb bitch. We could have gotten Star Wars underworld and a ton of EU content if you dumb fucking subhuman niggers who hate the prequels for the most retarded reasons would have shut your fucking mouths and not repeated reddit letter medias review.

>>358526
>The battles weren't very good. There was little sense of tension or investment in the characters.
Source was your sore asshole anon.
>What the prequels did have going for them was some interesting design choices
One of the many things they had going for them.
>bait harder
This isn't reddit or 4cuck, we actually like kino on this board nigger.
>I'm slightly older than you and never liked any of them
Probably because you are a subhuman.
>The Phantom Menace made me want to stay away even at that age, and I didn't watch any of the prequels until after they came out on DVD.
Filtered.
>I only ever watched the first one when I was little and I thought the jar jar binks stuff was embarassing and cringy and not funny
<errrm thing for little kids that George made bad when its based jar binks
>OH MY HECKIN' GAWD THE DROIDS ARE SO HECKIN' FUNNY I HEART THE EWOKS
>and all the politics talk confused 13 year old me
>movies for 12 year olds meant to educate them about babies first myth was to much for subhuman
George as usual overestimated the intelligence of his audience.
>Didn't watch any other ones because I just came to the conclusion these are kids' movies that aren't really anything I'm interested in.
Yep kids movies which can be enjoyed by the whole family and have more than enough information packed into them to make one wonder even as an adult, I honestly don't envy you niggers who chose to stay away from the Clone Wars Multimedia project, you missed out.
>>358584
>Hey, if you want to see normalgroids doing IRL soyfacing, you should watch HT's OME trolling
Never heard of it before, any chance you could post a link

>>358585
>Never heard of it before, any chance you could post a link
>>>/dup/158850
He's showing clips now, he'll be getting to the OME segment of the show soon.

>>358555
Overrated movie.
>>358585
>Except they were executed perfectly, whether you like them or not they came out exactly the way George wanted them.
I could smear shit on a canvas and have it come out just the way I wanted to. That wouldn't make it a work of art.
>This isn't reddit or 4cuck, we actually like kino on this board nigger.
Just because you liked to stim to the prequels when you were a window-licking child doesn't make them good movies, retardo.

>>358587
>never heard of him
Oh wait I know Handsome Truth. Sorry for wasting your time.
>>358588
>prequels bad because they just were okay
I watched them as a kid and they were good, I watched them as an adult and realized they had a lot more to offer than meets they eye. George in particular did a very good job addressing how political autism can work and did a good job of making the space showcase of the transition of the Roman Republic to Empire while also injecting his "Methodist Buddhist"/leftoid bias into it.

George puts more effort into his worldbuilding than any other filmmaker, he takes everything to the next level, even parts I don't agree with/dislike in direction are impressive in scale. The acting is also good. George is known for his cheesy dialogue, and I like it a lot so I have no problem with it, there's a reason the prequels are the most quotable kinos west of the plane scene. The visual acting by Hayden when Anakin reacts to his mothers death is some of the best direction in mainstream cinema I've seen. George is great at showing lighthearted funny scenes and brutal action, a master class director.

NOW REPEAT AFTER ME, WE ARE SORRY GEORGE!

>>358585
Filoni is a hack that ruined and retcon'd perfectly fine lore with his trash OC cartoon show. The original clone wars cartoon was awesome and did good to bridge the gap between Ep2 and Ep3. Grevious was badass. A shame he got nerfed in ROTS bur at least the explanation was that windu crushed his lungs so it was somewhat understandable yet disappointing. The CGI cartoon totally ruined Grevious.

>>358591
Yeah I think the OG cartoon did a good job of explaining/covering for georges autism. The CGI cartoon has some cool episodes but the way it makes the series so manchildish and butchers Anakins characters is gay.

>>358620
>>358621
This is a totally normal sequence of posts. There is nothing strange about these posts, nor does anybody reading this thread find this person talking to this other person with the same exact file separated by twenty minutes both seething about the usual nuzach bullshit strange

>>358622
>everything I don't like is samefagging
get a life, loser.(user was banned for being a no-life Jeet)

>>358623
You didn't even attempt to hide it. It was the same posting style with the same picture posted sequentially. You deserved to get banned for it and you deserve to feel bad for having done it.

>>358623
>samefagging

Nobody was talking about samefagging until you brought it up. That's strange, huh? Guilty conscious? :^) he doesn't have any sort of conscious nor internal monologue obviously

>>358643
No one feels bad after taking a massive shit on your turf with impunity and watching you clean it up lol.

>>358649
I'm still not a moderator, and you still can't tell different posters apart.

>>358651
I don't actually care about you besides watching you get angry and post your gay nigger.

>>358652
>he cares about seeing more Ramon

Aww, I'm glad you've finally come around to him. Don't mind if I do, then!

Also It's really cool how you post the whole "pssh, I don't really care" schtick after getting BTFO'd and just being exposed as totally wrong, everybody falls for that, you're so above it all!

>>358656
>retards get baited into burning their own website down
I'm sorry to tell you this, but you did not win, you Trans 500 fag.

>>358658
seethe collected! You're so above it all, buddy, we all believe you! Everyone that reads your tantrums believes you.

>>357848
>Ben
How'd he come up with a name like that in the Star wars universe?

>>358660
I would never assume a raging moron like you would be rational. I groomed you into cooning. You are cooers. You coon for me.

>>358656
Ramon makes me not want to visit this website.

>>358670
Why?

Super Ramon would agree with me that the prequels were always kino.

>>358670
You should leave then!

>>358526
As far as pure action you cant deny the prequels did very well. And personally i still thought there was emotional weight. Like in PM for instance we still invested in obi wan and anakin at the ending lightsaber battle and spaceship battle

And yes great design choices, part of the great worldbuilding they do

>>358514
The PT and ST are polar opposites.

The "problem" people had with the prequels was it was too different and not what they expected. Similarly, when Deep Space Nine came out, a lot of fans hated it because it deviated too much from the Trek formula (more serialized, set on a station not a ship etc.) but over time the show found it's groove, more fans warmed to it and now it's generally accepted to be kino. In both cases they took a risk and expanded those stories and worlds.

Shareholdercore like the sequel trilogy will never have a cult following like that because it's a nostalgia ploy that just repeats the same characters, locations, motifs etc. and does nothing unexpected or new. You can't divide the fans if you make something so fucking boring and lazy it's not even worth forming an opinion on.

>>358670
Ramon makes me want to visit this website.

>>358694
>now it's generally accepted to be kino
Speak for yourself fag, DS9 will never be more than a Babylon 5 ripoff that wrecked a bunch of the Star Trek lore.

>>358705
Even if it is a ripoff it was a fun show. Hail Dukat.

>>358694
>The "problem" people had with the prequels was it was too different and not what they expected
And that they were crap.

>>358194
>10 days
>no replies
alright i'll say it. based post and Armond was a genius and hack at the same time

>>358694
>shareholder core
fuck you

>The great renaissance of American filmmaking during the 1970s and its regeneration of film culture (when movies were seen as a vital means of approaching and understanding contemporary experience) were doomed by Star Wars' pseudo-imaginative, non-campy rehash of escapist junk.

I partially agree with this statement a ton. I feel like the prequels did an okay job of rectifying this with the heavier world building.

>>357857
6 including the stunt double Bob Anderson