/lit/ - Literature and Writing

>>3168
Oh, you know, lewd underage girls as the main characters, harem stuff, moe shit, magical girls, etc.

>>3168
Fun, optimistic, and little to no pozz.

>>3171
Lewis Carol, m8

>>3164
A bit over a year ago I was watching Gao Gai Gar at the same time as reading EE Smith's Skylark series, and it occured to me that Skylark was formulaicly similar to most of the super robot animes I've seen. You've got your existential extraterrestrial threat, and humanity is in an arms race with it til the action reaches outrageously over-the-top levels. Smith's other big series, Lensman, also fits this formula, and the nips actually did make a couple anime adaptations of it.

These are pretty old books so the girls might not be quite as lewd as you'd like, though there are many planets where nobody wears any clothes, including one populated entirely by amazons and another where it's normal to spank your wife. The main girls are involved more in a romcom type plot than a harem or moeshit one though.

>>3171
Juliette by Marquis De Sade

Go the pynchon route m80

Describe a space marine

>>1539
reminder that this jew dude started gamegate
rip

>>24
Who knows?
But just for lulz… The place of contemporary and eternal in a book. These two had exactly opposite approaches.
Shakespeare: Lots of old memes and jokes and euphemisms, and politics. But all those are used as decoration on the outside, while the bones are essential human problems. Which is why it remains good even if you don't know what "nunnery" really meant.
Dante: the core of a book is made of his personal passions, politics and problems (and long arguments for all of that). In the Divine Comedy the supposedly "eternal" themes are used as grand decorations for a simple revenge fic (try The Machiavellians by James Burnham, Part 1 "Dante: Politics As Wish", if you didn't read it yet). But hey, this certainly captures imagination long after almost no one has a foggiest idea what the hell this dude was really writing about.

>>1559
this but (also) unironically

>>2712
Dante put as much of himself as possible into his work while Shakespeare put as little of himself into his. After reading La Vita Nuova, De Monarchia, and The Divine Comedy, you know Dante as well as some people you know in real life. In a way, he was the original friend simulator. After reading all of Shakespeare's plays, you don't know anymore about the man himself than you did before reading any of them. Everything one of his characters says, even just a casual statement, is refuted by another, oftentimes in the same play.

Jesus was a pretty cool dude.

Anon… it's ten plus seven anon… whoa…

>>2410 pls b more creativ

There's a Jewish fast called the 17th of Tammuz commemorating the fall of the Temple.

17 is the 7th Prime Number. Coincidentally enough, it's also 2⁴+1, which vortexes to 7. 17 vortexes to 8 & 8+1 vortexes to 9. Therefore with 17, we have 789 all in one number!

What did you submit, you mad man?

You better not be stealing my shit nigger, you can however improve upon it

>>2948
I submitted a high noon in Santa Fe story :^)

>>2950
Oh I guarantee it was wholly original. Sorry for replying so late, just saw my thread had replies.

>>779
Yeah but Herman Melville was a fucking autist. Here, this is a short story by Melville, it's called Bartleby the Scrivener.
http://www.gutenberg.org/cache/epub/11231/pg11231.html
Even for his own day, his writing was needlessly archaic.

>>781
>Bartleby
Melville confirmed patrician.

>>781
If Bartleby is the one with the slave ship then it's such a kino shortstory and I can't rec. it enough.
Melville was a huge autistic though but instead of trains he was obsessed with boats, so much so that if he had never wrote Moby Dick he would be remembered as that autistic boatfucker. Only scholars don't get filtered by his blatant mechanophilia.

>>797
>If Bartleby is the one with the slave ship
Nah it's the one about the Wall Street clerk.

>>702
If your attention span doesn't allow it, no point.
If you need the action to begin, maybe stick to those picture books.
Once you don't, try Chesterton first. When you get to Melville after that, try The Encantadas.

Being only motivated by money will do that. People who only care about money have nothing interesting to say even to normalfags.

>>2567
Why do you imply characteristics that decrease sales and make a work interesting are one in the same? I'd argue there are many books that are very interesting but wouldn't sell well because they aren't palatable for normies. For example racism, which is based.

Draw A Turner Diaries

You bring up a lot of stuff and some of its wrong. Basically traditional publishing is dead, but those places might help get you into conventions and stuff to sell your book. Generally though regular old publishing houses are really poor at helping authors and really tend to open them up to scams like paying to join a club so you can vote on the Nebulas and get nothing else in return. Publishers don't give you any help with insurance, taxes, and any other number of the side aspects of being a writer. Writers that work hard get ahead and most already in the traditional publishing world would self-publish if they could.
I personally think books are going to get more popular as people get bored of shitty videogames and movies. A book is literally like the most expensive and personal movie without any compromises or shortcomings that either of those first modifiers normally require. And self published digital books can be sold for like $4 and still come out good for the author so it's a low investment for prospective customers.
I feel like if you like writing you should do it because you enjoy doing it, but also the goal of writing is to be read. It's just imaginary without that. But writing just for money sucks, I remember this reddit for erotic writers existed and I read through their stuff: a) they escaped the world of a dayjob but they had to spend the same amount of time looking up fetishes to make books on and b) they basically all needed to write a book a month (it's porn so it's not like a real books but still they needed a new product every month) and c) they had a big problem with categories. Like maybe there's not a lot of inflation erotica so they would start making that and it would sell well enough for a bit then get overcrowded and they needed to move to piss books. Anyways they wrote so much for work none of them actually worked on that good novel they wanted to write.
If you really want to make money it's trying to find an unfulfilled market need, it's research, it's a lot of extra stuff. Very few people get to be Stephen King and write piss and get paid for it.
Write because you enjoy it, put it out so it can have a life, try and get it reviewed to help that goal, and possibly buy some ads for it.

Humanity is over, so…

Unironically get with an indie publishing house. Unlike major publishers they're not in a position to strongarm you, but unlike self-publishing they can still hook you up with things like cover art, marketing, and printing.

It's definitely true that less people are reading new books though. There's not a lot you can do about that except shill your book here like that anon did on /tv/ for his movie.

>>1737
> It seems like the only people who read new works of fiction are children and middle-aged women, and they only read books written put out by major publishers.
May depend on where you look?
> and even then they'll force you to fill your story with pozz.
Depends on the publisher.
You ever heard about Larry Correia? He seems to do fairly well. He's competent, but not exactly Kipling. Obviously, he doesn't publish in Tor or other soy farms.
There's this, for example: https://amzn.to/2i3RVv5
And this: https://amzn.to/3f4d7v6

Anyhow, already published authors tend to give advise to the effect of: don't expect it to be your primary source of income.

>>1738
>Publishers don't give you any help with insurance, taxes
…droit du signeur. Anon… If you want to be a serf anyway, at least do it on fresh air.

thanks for the sticky but lol i dont read cuz i aint gay lel so ok

The second novel blues is almost unavoidable. Writers block is usually something that gets better on its own except for when it doesn't. Write several books and then safe deposit them for when you absolutely have to publish something to satisfy the publishers. That way when they come knocking for that yearly release and you cant write you can release the new book and still get paid.

>>2774
Horror erotica.

>>2776
Nice.

>>2777
It's shameful, but eh, it's a living…

>>2772
That was painful to read