>>3625 It has a great story with interesting ideas and a lot of great ways to play things out. No essential NPCs unlike most other Bethesda games and a great variety of weapons and followers with interesting backgrounds, the writers wasted no time making suitable dialogue options for each individuals choice of character. Mr New Vegas is the best in game radio show host of the franchise.
>>3628 what story? >you are amnesia man >go kill bad guy >*lots of walking and irrelevant distractions later* >You have killed the Bad Guy™ >That's it, that's all you were really motivated to do. >wanna blow up a dam or something?
>>3629 >>go kill bad guy Who is the bad guy though? Benny? Why is he a bad guy, because he tried to kill you? Well the player character is no different, as you kill plenty of people just to reach Benny. Ah but you were acting in self defense, well depending on which ending you go for, you will have to kill Mr House and/or the Brotherhood so you will have to initiate aggression as well.
>>3646 >Why is he a bad guy, because he tried to kill you? yeah >Well the player character is no different, as you kill plenty of people just to reach Benny.
No I just parkour around all the mountains through sloan and black mountain and then play blackjack at the one freeside casino until I can afford the credit check at level 1, ezpz. >rambling nonsense yeah not an argument
>>3631 >>3637 not an argument lol. Fallout 3 at least had a story. Your peaceful vault life was thrown asunder and your only family has disappeared, you must find them and try to rebuild a semblance of a life together in the apocalyptic wasteland, only to find yourself on a grand adventure to help your dad save the very world itself. 9/10 oscar-bait kino of a story.
New vegas? You're a delivery boy or something, bad guy do bad thing, wat do? Go find bad guy, get thing from bad guy, finish delivery boy thing. That's it. That's the entire game. It's a 3 step fetch quest on railroad tracks with a million, utterly irrelevant roadblocks inbetween to slow you down and draw the whole thing out. Frankly it should have ended right there after finishing the delivery with you going back to being a delivery boy for mojave express because that's the only ending that actually makes sense. Instead you get roped into some le epic mexican showdown reddit moment between literally who and the literally who's over some dumb rock blocking water, which your delivery boy ass is somehow a part of because……..because you just are, ok?!? Fucking EPIC. I clapped the whole time while shidding and farding my pants, I cried tears of pure strawberry flavored soylent which I lapped up feverishly.
Also, you're an official mojave express employee, and the mojave express operates a dropbox in the strip. How the FUCK has the main character not been inside the strip before? 0/10, plot-hole riddled, best of the worst tier forced sovl TRASH of a story.
>>3625 I will play it eventually I've downloaded it twice but have always waited for the right time to really sink my teeth in. Are there any essential mods for a first play through?
>>3661 Mostly patches and fixes, and maybe 4k textures if you want those. Even if you don't care about mods, it's best to use a program like Mod Organizer 2, that handles the mods. Without it, you would need to replace the original game's files, with a mod's so if you don't like the mod or if it breaks and you want to remove it, unless you have a backup of those original game files, then you would need to reinstall the game. Even more problems arise when several mods want to modify the same file. With a program like Mod Organizer 2, the original files are not deleted, it just creates shortcuts to the modded files, and enabling/disabling is just a simple checkbox, as such if something goes wrong, you can easily disable that mode and continue playing.
>>3669 Last year trannies became obessed with it, obviously game is still great but the fact is they are around it. I fear for what happened with MC modding where over half the community is troonified in walled discord gardens.
>>3670 modding has fallen. American Krogan made a mod to get the leftist nigger shit out of FO4 and kikes removed it from their websites. I thought maybe modding was going to save us from gay nigger leftist games but nah. I wonder how long before leftists come after "piracy" as a way to own the chuds?
>>3680 >I wonder how long before leftists come after "piracy" as a way to own the chuds? Troons already go after piracy for being literally stealing and taking the hard earned food out of soulless corperations' mouths.
>>3666 >>3669 >>3670 The New Vegas = Trans is just tranny cognitive dissonance. New Vegas is a game for male nerds, RPGs in general are overwhelmingly for a male audience, ESPECIALLY anything that isn't fantasy. So when they talk to their troon friends and they all say they love New Vegas too, instead of putting two and two together that they are all male gamer shut-ins who got memed into taking HRT, they do mental gymnastics that somehow New Vegas is a "trans game"
fo3 was oblivion with guns. nv was oblivion with guns with ironsights. They're the same game, nv was just a $60 dlc (that actually removed some content smh)
>>3691 >They're the same game, nv was just a $60 dlc Standalone expansions are a win win, fans get a new game without having to wait years for it and studios get to squeeze some more juice out of existing an existing engine / assets
>>3625 At this point I only remember how it feels overhauled with Project Nevada. It's more FUN than other RPGs. Elder Scrolls should play like Fallout where you attack body parts and shit. It won't happen tho since Bethesda wants to artificially keep their brands separated.
>>3700 trannyvegas butchered the science skill. There were tons of unique interesting craftables in 3. trannyvegas lets me craft pointy sticks and lets me relOOOOOd!!!
>Fallout thread >No mention of Sonora nor the Dayglow expansion that came out a few days ago No wonder this board is dead, no one ever posts anything good…
Both Caesar and House are based individuals, slavery is bad for different reasons than libtards think, although caesars particular methods work much better than tradional enslavenent. House is a coomer and his lack of caring about morals due to being a degenerate autist in a coffin make sense because he is more machine than man anymore, that being said it is an issue that would need to be addressed by someone else outside of the immortality chamber he resides in. The NCR was only decent when it had its bases female dictator, any democracy or republic that isn't exclusive to a quality and loyal elite is bound to fail and history has shown that unlike more traditional societies they degrade far faster than most, see AmeriKKKa for a real world example. Bottom line is the NCR, even if it actually does have some right wing values is destined for failure like both House and Caesar Assert. Shame there is no mod where the player can gain a 4 way alliance between Caeasar, House, the Brotherhood of steel and the enclave remneants to finally bring the old world to a crashing end once and for all.
>>3784 But Legion is a caricature of the old-old world, and BoS and Enclave are both literally leftovers of previous government organs, although I definitely prefer all of them to the upstart kikemerica larpers. It could be said that House's ending is the canonical ending to the whole series. There is a video (embed related) where Tim Cain discusses how the vaults were meant to perform experiments in preparation for space travel in the event of a nuclear apocalypse, which is exactly what happens in House's ending.
Overall, however, I like upgrading the robot army THEN disabling House for the wildcard ending more than anything. I always like bringing the ex-Enclave and Khans along to the dam, too. I see it as granting amnesty to them along with the Boomers. Feels like a good payoff to cripple both invading forces and become the new dictator after being forced to do all the legwork for so long.
NCR is gay, but I see both House and Legion sharing culpability for the player character getting wrapped up in the conflict, former because Benny tries to ice you and latter because the butthurt fanatical nigger Ulysses puts you on the chopping block in the first place (I also like to nuke both Legion and NCR at the end of the DLC). Of course, the player character should always have the most agency, but that doesn't change the fact he or she should reap the most reward too. It feels like you're cucking out and fulfilling someone else's dream in any ending besides wildcard. I'd rather make a new nation of my own philosophy.
>>3795 You are free to either look up House's dialogue where he explicitly mentions building colony ships or keep being retarded. Up to you.
>>3798 I know, but he's also one of the most, if not the most, authoritative voices on Fallout's original vision. Hearing his voice, I always had a suspicion he was a butt-fairy. I still like Fallout anyway.
>>3704 >>3746 What a pathetic samefagging. If you want to keep this place alive, at least pretend to be a better poster and post something more original.
>>3803 Maybe it was the original vision but we are all free to have our own, such as a victory where the legion and house are fused together under my heel and I create a new era of basedness.
>>3803 >he doesnt actually want that because [my headcanon] Great rebuttal.
>>3804 Like I said, I prefer wildcard. If I'm the one going and killing thousands of people and monsters, then I deserve to rule the land. I think space travel is a dumb pipe dream anyway. Just saying House's desires align with the purpose of Vault-Tec in the original lore of Fallout 1.
>>3806 Personally I would also like to be in control but I am not as smart as house or caesar are so I'd rather serve as a comprimise to reap the best out of them both.
>>3810 Both of them are more interesting than faceless kike puppet #6,000,000 Kimball, that's for sure. I love the sniper mission where you assassinate him.
>>3813 It's really sad that's how NCR turns out. It was the fledgling nation of Fallout and it just turns to shit. Even Enclave is better because it's both more legitimate and meritorious, even if it was essentially dead by the time of 3/New Vegas.
The fantasy politics shit was the weakest part of the game, Legion in particular is obviously underbaked with lots of cut content. The game is best when you are just blasting geckos with Raul and stumbling across interesting spots in the Mojave
>>3909 Retarded take, the autism politics are actually very well thought out. Legion actually had a ton of cut content but was still fun. Tons of mods do restore this content though.
Anyone else notice that anti-Vegas pajeet posting sky rocketed almost right after Microshart bought out Bugthesda?
You also can't even look at nu-Doom the wrong way anymore without getting dogpilled by people who seemingly haven't even played any of the games before.
>>7038 They didn't use to be anywhere near this bad and with it getting so much worse in the short time frame that Microsoft bought them out it comes off as suspect.
>>7039 So you can't believe people don't like New Vegas, but you can believe Microsoft is paying to astroturf against a game that they currently sell, in a franchise that they own, made by a studio that they own?
>>7042 A true and honest consoomer moment right there, my fellow imageboardposter. Microsoft, Amazon and Bethesda are wholesome and nice companies! New Vegas and their fans are all trash fashies! You are 100% right! I'll be buying five extra copies of Fallout 4 and giving it a 10/10.
>>7048 No one is fan boying for Obsidian either. I'll say it again, I brought up Doom for a reason, they did the same thing to it at the same time. It's all ultimately just another form of advertizing.
>>7051 >>7052 I like New Vegas I just don't like Fallout purists who act like New Vegas is some deep cut when it sold more than Fallout 3. Or that the Bethesda games are unplayable garbage, when they are average at worst.
>>7054 I agree with you completely,I enjoyed a lot of my time with Fallout 4 and Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game all together, I just don't get why you think Microsoft or any other corporation wouldn't do some dumb shit like that.
>>7054 I mean shit man, if drumming up fake rivalries and turning people against eachother for the sake of getting a dollar isn't a key part of modern advertisement then what is?
>>7054 >>7055 >>7056 Fallout 3 is ok for a rushed out first time Fallout in 3D. For the time it's actually amazing what they accomplished in so little time in 2 years despite all the reused assets from Oblivion.
Fallout 4 is fucking dogshit and if you enjoy it you need to be lobotomized, straight up.
>>7058 It was fun to play on playstation while staying at a friends house for a few days, but was fucking miserable on pc and modding it didn't help at all, I was just trying to not be overly harsh on it.
>>7059 >It was fun to play on playstation while staying at a friends house for a few days, but was fucking miserable on pc Are you retarded? Anything is fun with friends, fucking watching paint dry is fun with friends.
>>7054 Fallout 3 is still good all things considered because you still had white guys working on it right before the Obama effect hit. There is nothing preachy about it. Fallout 4 is bad. It's not Starfield tier but the artwork is a step back to Oblivion. Skyrim is the last good Bethesda game.
>>7066 The difference is that if you have a pc available to mod that shit out then you have way better shit to play by default were as a cucksle does not.
>>7085 Pretty much all of Bethesda's games were dated even at launch. That's beside the point of why people like them. Morrowind came out after Halo, and Shenmue, and it pretty much looks like a suped up N64 game. No voice acting, very stiff clunky animations on everything. That's just how Bethesda is.
>>7097 Everything was released on a certain date. A game could be released today and it would be dated to 2024. What the hell does the date have to do with tbe quality?
>>7093 >>7108 Because the game was good when it released. Saying it's shit wouldn't be true because at one point it was an impressive game and a lot of the things bad about it are just old school design and graphics, not the world and story. Put it up against Cyberpunk 2077 and it looks like shit, but that is hardly fair right? So it's more accurate to say it's dated or archaic than saying it's shit
>>7058 I'm, playing Fallout 4 for the first time, and I just immediately give so little of a shit. >gotta find my son who I knew for all of two minutes >gotta help this boring cardboard niggers, who can't shoot a few raiders on their own, or construct liveable structures out of the streets filled with empty houses all around them. Al the same time I booted up Fallout 1 again for the first time in about ten years, and that's immediately way more engaging. Travelling the desert actually feels perilous. Every bit of loot I find feels like it matters. I'm glad to have a companion, because I need them to survive combat encounters. I actually find myself sitting there, debating whether I should wipe out a town just to harvest the loot and experience, and that's great.
>>7131 >and that's immediately way more engaging And then you quickly remember that the game is a shallow bug-infested turd with only four dungeons and can be beaten in 15 minutes.
>>7132 Who cares about dungeons in RPGs? The fun is always in visiting settlements, talking to people, making decisions, and weaving your own narrative.
>>7139 i was born in the wrong generation!!! i love 70s psychedelic rock and pink floyd and nirvana and led zeppelin!!! Just let me my Nirvana album and let me in that time machine and we're off! all these kids my age listen to wrapping or techno (sounds like someone farting in a bath tub honestly) and wrapping is just talking about drugs, women, cars and money!!! it's actual cancer. Sacrifice Justin Bieber and bring Kurt Cobain back. Fuck my generation. I'm only 15 and I listen to 70s rock.
>>7141 Nah, I was born just in time to have all of that for free and instantaneously via the internet and to call some old fart from the other side of the world a nigger. Feels good to be king!
>>7148 What do you expect, they crawl to tvchan expecting it to be a hugbox for them and for everyone to baby them, then get mad and piss themselves when they realize people here have a range of opinions and won't automatically coddle them for being a loser just because they have "based" opinions >>7150 Case in point
I wish we could have more fun threads taking the original isometric shitpiles down a notch, but it seems like these days any time someone wants to talk about Fallout it's just to beat up on the easy targets of bland FPSs.
>>7036 Do "OG" Fallout fans even exist? I've always been suspicious that maybe in fact nobody ever respected this shit franchise, and the entire notion that anyone ever thought it had some timeless classics was in fact just an atroturfing campaign to market the bland FPSs.
>>7141 Just because those fags were annoying and need to broaden their horizons doesn't mean that they don't have some valid points here and there. Rap really does suck, and music is worse than it used to be.
>>8412 What is a "nigger beat" to you? Prominent drum rhythms? It's not like traditional European music couldn't have a heavy emphasis on those. It just ended up getting mostly sidelined over the centuries.
>>8413 Nigger beat is the "boom boom boom" shit that niggers constantly listen to and which has infected every type of "music" you white trash imbeciles coonsoom.
>>8547 not surprised since bethesda has pretended to be working on Elders Scrolls 6 for 5 years now and still has nothing to show for it beyond a 10 second clip of generic forest >>8548 don't know
>>8547 Every time I wake up, I thank God that I don't suck off Bethesda and shackled myself to Todd Howard's cattle town and praise over AmaZION's FagOut fanfiction.
>>8587 I don't even know how anyone could still be a Blizzard fan. I was already having problems with them once World of WarCraft came out. Brood War was the last release from them that I give a shit about.
>>8589 >>8590 I've personally never been a fan of their games, but as far as I know they were one of the companies that kept the most idiotic old talentless guys at the top and put newfag devs to actually create and manage everything else. Meanwhile Rockstar has only just started to have its former old talents leave the company and we've yet to see what they'll be able to do without the guys with the frat culture. I foresee Rockstar becoming more and more shit over the next few years and becoming just another company. Bethesda has a similar problem to Blizz, it's Todd and Emil and other idiots at the top, making the decisions while everyone else is the modern bad guy programmer and dev.
>>8589 Overwatch happened, all the useful retards from reddit and tumblr gave them a second chance after mutilating WoW beyond recognition. They definitely give competition to Nintentoddlers when it comes to dickriding their enemies.
>>8600 >Nintentoddlers You call us that, but the fact of the matter is Nintendo still churns out some of the best gameplay experiences on a regular basis. This is why da Switch is the third bestselling console of all time.
>>8606 >defending cucktendo in 2024 I mean if you liked breath of the wild 1.5 and your soytch melting in between loading sections of fire enblem than sure! >>8607 For once I can somewhat get a nigger's tard rage.
>>8606 Most of cuckchan jannies are Nintentoddlers. They filtered and banned any words who made them butthurt, including soyboy and even Nintoddler. I owned a Super Nintendo, I love Donkey Kong but that don't change the fact that Nintendo fanboys are lolcows and weirdos. Bethesdrones and Fromsoftroons are trying to become the new biggest lolcows of vidya, but they will never really reach the same level as Nintendoddlers.
>>8611 >highest rated game of all time <virgin Yeah its still the same okay game doesn't matter if you payed for those. >>8612 I guess H8chan was ahead of its time with the intense cucktendo defense back in the day.
>>8611 >they had to add a mechanic from 20 years ago into their sequel just so that it doesn't get immediately bodied by a free chinese gacha game things are not looking good for the big N
>>8620 >Genshit impact Nintendo got dethroned, but Sonicfags were deeply affected during the GOTY in which Tencent cucked SEGA in "Best Music" genre. They're just dropping their pants and let the CCP rape their expectations.
The same /v/irgins who used to attack game journos will screencap their 9/10 pretendo reviews as an appeal to authority to solidify their nintendo shillhood.