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Anonymous 08/31/26(Mon)02:00:52 No.178282

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>>178122
>Lol, does such a thing even exist? Surely its just all feds by now
That Tom Bowie guy is one of the few I can think of, but he's technically not even really a member himself and just has associations with them.
>Do you remember the comic, Lewis Black? His routine was like that too just watered down. Some angry kike screaming about how much they hate White people is not comedy
Yeah, I never actually got into him. One thing I do actually recall is his bit about "equestrian" being the gayest word in the English language.
>They are like a gateway band for people to discover so many more new bands. I like them too. "New Dawn Fades" is my favorite song of theirs.
They were probably the first post-punk band I got into. Peter Hook is one of my favorite bassists, and the drumming from Stephen Morris stands out to me too. As far as drummers go, that's kind of unusual for me.
>Did you ever see the movie "Control" (2007)? Its a biopic of the band and about Ian Curtis, it was a good movie. A sad movie. He died so young
Yeah, I watched that one not that many years after it came out. I like the fact that the actors actually performed the songs themselves. I always thought the part where one of the band members makes a remark like "I thought epilepsy was for spackers!" was pretty funny too.
>It comes with age, I guess. I've listened to a lot more softer music too, explored a lot of electronic music. I used to listen to almost exclusively heavy and extreme stuff. I think too, harder stuff the rhythms and melodies will stick in your mind for longer, so that's why you don't re-listen to it as much as times past. Mellowing out a bit has given me a great appreciation of a lot of cool 90's UK music. I mess with D'n'B, garage. Some of that "donk" music too lmao. They had a lot of interesting stuff coming out in the 90's and early 2000's. Drum N Bass the pinnacle of it all. The classics in that genre have a timeless quality/sound to them.
When I was younger, I would often gravitate toward the most extreme metal bands. Nowadays I can't be bothered. You can only go so intense before the music just sounds like a featureless blur.
>Something mellow I've been exploring lately is downtempo/chill out/lounge music. The band Red Snapper is good
Do you like Ulrich Schnauss or Lemon Jelly at all? Far Away Trains Passing By might sound more bland and car-commercial-tier than, say, Aphex Twin or Boards of Canada, but it's an album with a sound that takes me back to the early 2000s. Some of Lemon Jelly's material reminds me of the end of the '90s in the same way, particularly The Yellow. I can't say I like the idea of sampling other people's music, but I think Lemon Jelly shows what hip-hop could have been if those "musicians" had taste and creativity.

As far as mellow music goes, I started developing more of an appreciation for '60s soft psychedelia and sunshine pop a while ago. Maybe my younger would think I'm a fag, but I like what I like.
>I've heard of them as a name but haven't listened to their music yet. Gonna download their stuff and check it out this week
They have two albums, and their debut, Uh! Tears Baby…, is the one I like. It's really hooky, over-the-top '80s pop with a tongue-in-cheek style. Hearing "You've Got the Power" made me track down the rest of the album, and I think it's a record that should have been much bigger. I heard Freaky Trigger a time or two, but it just didn't click with me.

I also listened to a bit of the Fire Engines, one of Davy Henderson's previous bands, pretty recently but wasn't too keen on them. They're interesting, but they reminded me of a second-rate version of Gang of Four from what I heard.

As an aside, I think it's kind of interesting when members of the punk and post-punk scene would intersect with the pop world back then. I already mentioned Strawberry Switchblade, whose members were involved with that before doing pop music, and Bananarama got their start doing backup vocals in the punk scene. Win was another example.
>We grow more patient with time, lul.
In some ways I'm more impatient. When I was younger I would force myself to listen to music I didn't really like because I felt like I had to appreciate it.

Anonymous 08/31/26(Mon)02:07:45 No.178283

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>>178123
>I like Crass too.
Penny Rimbaud might not be the greatest drummer in the world, but his work on The Feeding of the 5,000 has always appealed to me. Those kinds of swinging beats and snare-heavy martial-style rhythms set it apart from a lot of other punk bands out there. It kind of opened up my mind to styles other than straight kick-snare-kick-snare drumming (e.g., skank beats or more standard rock beats) or d-beats.
>I can overlook politics in music as long as its not too particularly egregious.
Yeah, I just feel like the "oi maggie fatcher innit" type of stuff from back then (or throwing tantrums over Reagan for a U.S. equivalent) ends up cheapening things in a sense. Focusing so much on hot-button headline issues that are contemporaneous with the release of whatever the music just seems like short-term thinking to me. One of the things I like about Amebix's presentation is that they avoided a lot of that despite being sort of a political band and went more general with things (as far as I can tell; I typically don't pay that much attention to lyrics). It feels more much more evergreen, as opposed to something nobody's going to care about in a few years.
>Yeah their guitarist was good. I like that surf sound with punk, it goes together. Differnt and iinfluential
The odd thing is that East Bay Ray apparently wasn't all that into surf rock at all besides hearing it in California when he was growing up. I guess I just figured he'd have had a more serious interest into Dick Dale or The Ventures or whatever. He's said that his echo effect was possibly inspired by Syd Barrett.
>The lyrics from their early work are very bitter and misantrhopic and they hated everyone and went from noise rock/punk about fuck everyone, to making a really experimental album with polka and lounge music, doing new wave parodies. They played not facing the crowd, brought airplane runaway lights and shined them at the crowd. Just really contentious, mean assholes that trolled everyone all the time, lul. The lead singer… or guitarist maybe? Killed himself after their debut dropped. He really did hate everyone, he lived what he preached. "Too Many Humans" is their best album but I like all their stuff. If you think the DK's were different, this band you'll love, they changed it up constantly and didn't even like their own fans lol.
I like the anti-scenefaggotry attitude I'm reading about from them and should probably give their music a try.
>The best example of the top of my mind I can think of is Kaiser Chiefs "Employment" versus the rest of their output.
That's the only Kaiser Chiefs album I can recall ever listening to. It's been a long time since then, but I still remember bits and pieces of it.
>Do you like Exodus? Annihilator "Alice in Hell"?
I listened to Exodus a decent amount when I was in high school. "Metal Command" was my favorite song from them. I'm also thankful for their "Overdose" cover introducing me to one of my favorite AC/DC songs. Stylistically I actually preferred Testament to Exodus, although I remember Testament being pretty inconsistent.

Annihilator isn't a band I ever listened to that I know of, although I seem to recall the old No Life 'Til Metal review site I used to read as a teenager mentioning them and Jeff Waters.
>I'm a Ride the Lightning guy, then Kill 'em All is my 2nd favorite. Master of Puppets @ #3 although as a kid that album was porbably my #1 of the Metallica albums. Listening to Master of Puppets so much lead to me listening to a lot of funeral doom, doom, and prog bands.
Ride the Lightning was actually my favorite originally, although "Master of Puppets" was the first Metallica song I ever listened to. "For Whom the Bell Tolls" might have been my favorite Metallica song back then. Nowadays I don't know which album I'd choose between Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets. Kill 'Em All appeals to me the most probably because it has my favorite riffs and overall sound. I sort of think of the tracks as being less progressive and more straightforward too compared to those albums.

I'd take all three of the records over …And Justice for All, which I can't get into at all anymore except for maybe "Eye of the Beholder."
>The drumming on Puppets is sick, I would hear the drums first when hearing music although nowadays I hear the guitars first. It takes me a few listens of a track to hone in on the lyrics.
It's common to shit on Lars Ulrich nowadays, which is understandable on some level given his decline, but back in the '80s he seemed to be pretty well regarded as a drummer. "Motorbreath" and "Fight Fire with Fire" personally come to mind as highlights from that era.
>This has led me to listening to some cringe SJW-tier libtard music twice before realizing what they were singing, lol.
Lyrics aren't something I really pay attention to, so I can definitely understand where you're coming from. I think I lot of music gets overvalued based on their lyrics.
>S.E.O.D. dumps all over almost everybody, lmao. What an album!
I think it's funny that they were basically a joke band but deserved to be more popular than Anthrax, and the majority of other metal bands for that matter. As much as I don't like having to praise Scott Ian, most "serious" metal guitarists could only wish they wrote the riffs he did on that album. "Sargent D and the S.O.D." is a monster.

Actually, I wonder how much Charlie Benante may have had to do with that. Not only is he a highly talented drummer who helped popularize blast beats among metal bands, but what I never knew is that he was a really good guitarist too. I wonder what songs he might have lent a hand to with guitar stuff.
>how can real humor develop when you have a list of trigger warnings and privilegs to check?
It reminds me of the silly term "shitlord" that Internet leftists would apply to right-wingers, presumably because it doesn't step on the toes of any of their precious protected victim classes.

Anonymous 08/31/26(Mon)02:12:37 No.178284

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>>178124
It was Ghoul, if I remember right. I thought he got exposed for trying to bang teenage boys or something.

I remember the format going by the name "counter-signal memes for fashy goys." There was a Faceberg page with that name, at least, and I believe it was TRS guys running it.

There are a bunch of images I have saved I could post, although there would probably be duplicates.
>>178125
>I like that album too. Wasn't it right before or after "Fallen"?
That was right before Fallen.
>Solid albums both
Yup. I prefer the more dirty production of the '90s, but in terms of material I feel like those albums don't get enough respect.
>My nigger! Thats one of his best songs for sure, its brutal
I think that main guitar pattern is among the best Burzum riffs.
>Do you like Sebadoh? Guided by Voices? I like some of those lo-fi rock bands. I know you mean lo-fi on the production values of black metal, I like that sound too its gritty and raw. Do you know Trist? One man black metal artist from, Poland, I believe. You might like him
I don't think I've listened to Sebadoh, but I have heard Guided by Voices. I remember liking a song or two from them, but I never listened to them all that heavily. I remember listening to Daniel Johnston a long time ago to try and see what all the fuss was about. I thought his reputation was pretty overblown, but I did find the homemade cassette production pleasing.

As far as 21st-century black metal goes, I'm not that familiar with all that much. I do like "Shadow I" by Infamous, which sounds nicely imperfect to me. "The First Snow" by Drudkh is another one I like, although that's higher in fidelity.

Speaking of the term "lo-fi," it always bothers me when people treat it like a genre in itself and not just a loose descriptor of production style. What exactly do Pure Fucking Armageddon, The Disintegration Loops, and Washed Out have to do with each other? It gets my goat even more when people associate it specifically with hip-hop.
>Its great., some of it can create such a rich atmosphere. I've got a lot of dark ambient albums, and just regular ambient like Eno too. Pairing together black metal with interludes like that adds a lot to the atmosphere and makes the metal songs that much heavier.
It reminds me a bit of how bands like Black Sabbath would mix in softer tracks with the heavier songs on their albums, except I much prefer the ambient pieces the black metal bands went with over songs like "Planet Caravan" or "Solitude." I know a lot of people would hate that "Rundgang" track off Filosofem due to its minimalistic nature, but I've always loved it.

I do like regular ambient music too, particularly the more smooth stuff.
>He raises a fair point about blast beats, there was a time were it felt like every band was using and subsequently over-using them
I definitely think they're easy to overuse, especially considering how prone they can be to overpowering the other instruments and destructive to more subtle rhythmic dynamics, but I also think the style of blast beats themselves are another consideration. I find the Transilvanian Hunger type that are a bit muffled and further back in the mix to be hypnotic when used effectively, whereas endless barrages of Napalm Death-style grindcore blast beats that drown everything else out I find tiresome nowadays. I think it's best to change things up. I remember listening to "Chainsaw Gutsfuck" by Mayhem when I was younger and more into blast beats and appreciating that one little section that features them, even if it feels pretty abrupt.
>But talking about 90's makes me think of death metal. What death metal do you like? The 90s was a great time for death.
Death metal admittedly isn't something that I've ever been that into. These would probably be my favorite records:
Atheist - Unquestionable Presence, Elements
Possessed - Seven Churches
Terrorizer - World Downfall
Bolt Thrower - In Battle There is No Law
Repulsion - Horrified

Maybe Symphonies of Sickness by Carcass too.

These aren't something I'm all that sure of though, since it's been so long. I remember liking Individual Thought Patterns by Death a lot in the past, but I wasn't impressed with it the last time I listened to it. I remember liking the Cannibal Corpse stuff with Corpsegrinder at one point, but it's been a long time since I heard them at all.

I'm also only counting the earlier varieties of death metal and not anything like melodeath. If I did that, Burning Bridges by Arch Enemy would be at the top of my list.
>Do you like Deteriorate "Rotting in Hell"?
That's one I never heard of before, but I feel like I'll have to listen to it again to make a judgement. I like the guitar tone, and the cover art certainly has character. As far as production goes, I'd take it over most of the metal made in this century. I don't like the snare sound, but that's something I'm particular about.
>Carcass "Heartwork"?
I think that's the only pre-breakup album from Carcass I haven't heard. I think I'd be more into their earlier material, but that's just a guess.
>Necrophagist?
Onset of Putrefaction is one I definitely listened to in high school. Technical death metal doesn't necessarily appeal to me, but I think it's interesting when it's taken to that extreme of complexity. I've seen Atheist's style referred to as "muppet metal" once, and I kind of think of Necrophagist's music in similar terms.
>I love Pale Saints too.
I've just heard a couple of their albums, and they do have a pretty pleasant sound.
>I never liked Nick Cave though, wasn't he the big 4AD artist? His lyrics were too brutally, needlessly depressing for me. You can make sad music that sounds good but if you're just up there doing lyrical torture porn, nah… no thanks.
The Birthday Party was on 4AD at one point. They're the only Nick Cave project I've heard, and that was back in high school. I didn't care for them. Maybe I should give them another chance and maybe give the Bad Seeds stuff a try.
>You remember Godflesh "Streetcleaner"? Industrial drone tracks using drum machines. Decent album. His other work is solid too.
The reputation of Godflesh I definitely know of, but I'm not sure I ever actually listened to Streetcleaner. I thought I had it downloaded years ago, but apparently I didn't and have rectified that now.
>I went thru a period where I was into drum machine bands and people experimenting with drum machines. Listened to a lot of grind and cybergrind during that time
Drum machines can sound pretty nice depending on the style of music involved. They might not work for a sleazy, loose, more traditionally rock-oriented type of music, but for something more rigid, artificial, or on the experimental side they can work well. I used to have a preference for the digital ones with big snare sounds, but lately I've been appreciating the analog drum machines more. They're less in your face but can also sound great with distortion. Models like the TR-808 and TR-909 are considered iconic, but it took me a while to develop an appreciation for those kinds of sounds. Plus they've kind of been overused. Behringer put out a pretty cheap clone of the TR-606 that I like, and sometimes you can find modded ones for sale.

Anonymous 08/31/26(Mon)02:18:06 No.178285

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>>178126
I liked TRS okay enough back toward the beginning of the podcast era, but I always preferred their early blog period when they were spiteful ex-libertarians. It's kind of sad that I use to think Mike Enoch was a pretty cool guy. I didn't even mind Sven back before I realized what an asshole he was. TRS has been totally irredeemable for a long time now.
>>178129
>We gotta network and mingle IRL but everyones afraid to make the 1st move
My problems are that I'm an asocial, autistic shut-in and that I don't even know who to network with. I'm not socially conservative enough for projects like Return to the Land, Patriot Front, and probably Heritage American's Loyal Order. I've never had a drive to start a family or anything. I'd like to live in an intentional community of some kind, but I'm not even sure what the standards would be.
>Well to be fair, it does look cool. There's a pic I have amongst my lit/philosophy stuff of this Russian guy in all black outside some commie blocks and it goes something like, bright colors depress me, how do you visualize a poet? In a yellow raincoat, or in all black? It looks better the more minimal you are with it though, if you wear a bunch of hot topic accessories and shit it doesn't look cool. Not accusing you of wearing mall trinkets, just a general statement lol.
Outside of plaid flannel shirts, I tend to stick to black, white, and earth tones for main articles of clothing. I'm a bit more open to color than I used to be, but I don't go crazy with it. I would like to make some crumple-dyed t-shirts for summer weather, but I don't know how easy it is to find a plain white t-shirt brand I'm satisfied with.

Hot Topic is definitely lame. Even as a teenager I thought it sucked. I did find a Slayer shirt the one time I went into one, but they've always catered to the wrong kind of people.
>Now that I think about it, I would hate it if I had a car. I haven't had a car in so long, I forget how much of a pain they can be sometimes. Having to salt the roads and do all that preventative maintenance to cars y'all gotta do 'cuz of the cold is so foreign to me. That specific issue would ruin it for me.
It's also a bit of a hassle to have to clear snow and ice off your car if you leave it sitting out while it's snowing and having to let it heat up. Winter driving sucks too.
>I still think that the heat gradually, slowly wears people down though.
That's probably true more for Whites than it is for other races. I feel like I can handle the heat better than the cold though, but I also don't have to deal with truly serious heat and don't sunburn that easily. A day in the '90s doesn't feel bad to me around here, but there also aren't very many of them in a year compared to elsewhere.

I don't even like a little bit of cool weather considering both my overall preference for heat and how short the warm season is around here. I'm pretty miserable from October through April, and July is really the only month I feel satisfied with. If I lived in a climate with 9 months of heat, maybe I'd be looking forward to high temperatures in the 60s, but I've never had that opportunity. Unfortunately, most of the places in the world I don't think I'd mind living in weatherwise having terrible demographics or other issues.
>You add in clouds and a rainy spell, it gets stifling. You can't think or hardly even breathe you just go into lizard brain survival mode. Its not bad until it passes 105 and higher degrees F"
Sounds hellish.
>Not a fan of the color green personally but I think it looks sharp in stripes like that
I'm big on olive green and also like other subdued varieties of green, but I feel like they just work well with my appearance.
>When you called it Jennifer Aniston my mind blanked on it, I always called that video Sam @ Rutgers, or Rutgers.
The name didn't stick with me.

Anonymous 08/31/26(Mon)02:23:11 No.178286

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>Exactly. And the very nature of being king and queen and having such things as a royal family and all the crap that goes with it, find me people who wouldn't let it go to their head and turn corrupt and also turn weird and disconnected from the blood and soul of their country from the isolation of it all. Its just not a good system.
I much prefer Thomas Jefferson's idea of a natural aristocracy, but the question becomes how you prevent the natural aristocracy from pulling up the ladder on the ascending plebs and degenerating into an artificial aristocracy like hereditary monarchies.

Although I definitely find elite theory hard to argue with and believe that the majority of people are ignorant, I don't really trust a lot of the people pushing hard anti-populist sentiment.
>They don't though, and I don't see a time where they stop being such kikes all the time. They're gonna go full-throttle ahead on being real jewy if anything. That video of the jew bitch "antisemitism, it is a tool we use.."
Yeah, I agree. The majority will never learn their lesson.
>Some of the ashkenazis at least make a feeble attempt to conform to European values of the host country but its all performative at the end of the day
I've read that a lot of Ashkenazis actually used to be Teutonophiles prior to WWII. There's a book called The Pity of It All about it that I haven't read. Having come across some passages on Twitter, it seems like it could be interesting reading. But it's also by an Israeli author, which is something that would have to be taken into consideration while going through it.

Regardless, it presents a serious problem if many were still holding on to their treacherous anti-gentile religion and its derivative culture instead of giving up their cultural ties to the Middle East.
>and I think its just too hardcoded in them genetically
I think it's possible for that to be the case. The Jews that exist nowadays are the descended from the ones who managed to cling to their culture while many of their own people gradually ended up losing their identity.

I kind of wonder if it goes beyond the usual ascribed causes like genetics and into the weirder realm of something like Rupert Sheldrake's morphic resonance idea, where their traits aren't purely biological in nature. If that's true, then it's imperative that Jews do some serious cultural reform and introspection that goes beyond lachrymose navel gazing about how mean those gentiles are. It's something they'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing.
>and really I think its a deep spiritual thing, they are just never gonna be able to overcome all the schizophrenia and binds to demons they and their ancestors have and will
If there's anything demonic involved, I think it could be overcome. But that's also only if they'd be willing to try and deal with the problem, which I don't see the majority doing. At least the majority of Jews who identify with their Jewish heritage. Those are the toughest nuts to crack.
>Original Sin and the concept of White privilege are the same thing in my eyes. Its just 2,000 year old SJW's reeeeee'ing and doing pussy riot, but its all the same to me. Whats my crime I'm guilty of, being born? How can an innocent child come into this world already in "sin"? Thats an evil doctrine. I don't have White guilt, and I don't wring my hands bemoaning all the "sin" I do neither. They try to say people need religion to be moral people and I thik thats horseshit. If anything saying something like that makes me think the person saying it is a narcissist or a psychopath or something because those are the types of people that actually do need strict religous guidance and regimented lifestyle to not hurt people or go out and sin just as their default!
That's definitely true. And if Yahweh is an all-powerful, all-knowing god, then any flaws in his creation ultimately come back to him. The people who say Yahweh can do whatever he wants are operating off abusive parent logic.

Also, from what I understand, Judaism itself has no idea of original sin in the way that Christianity conceptualizes it. The goyim are ultimately stuck flagellating themselves over their inherently evil nature, while the Jews don't believe they're suffering from an inborn taint due to the supposed sins of Adam and Eve.

Anonymous 08/31/26(Mon)03:32:12 No.178287

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Hey it seems you guys are talking about old internet history I remember, the TRS stuff. Gonna post a bit later about an autopsy on the internet, imageboards, early /pol/, pre and post-alt-kike. So far I like what I see but one of the anons here needs to give up entirely on populism and embrace elite theory, or rather the law of the elites. Normalfags will literally never wake up, they strangled our irl hobby scenes/cons of the 2000s, they strangled otaku culture/gaming, they strangled the internet, and they strangled the pursuit of the truth that /pol/ began.

Anonymous 08/31/26(Mon)09:52:10 No.178291

>>178286
>5th image
They do that to shit on homeless people trying to sleep on benches to keep away from ants and such. They also got rid of those slopes under roads on stilts to stop them from sleeping under underpasses, if that is what they were called, fo which they were using to stay away from the rain and wind.
>img 3
They also put up signs saying no tresspassing in the woods so no homeless people will sleep there without a trespassing charge.

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>>178133
I completely forgot to respond to this post.
>Thats true but some people take the whole book entirely literal with no room whatsoever for allegory and those types of people get real kooky into it, these are the ones that love book of Romans and the noahide laws.
The people who emphasize allegorical interpretations above literal ones are definitely more reasonable, but I feel like people need to shit or get off the pot. Accept that there were plenty of insane ideas intended by the writers of the Bible, and be delusional enough to accept them as true or be rational and reject them (preferably the whole Bible).
>Doing a critical study of book of Romans will make a christian a non-christian. You can't escape the bootlicking, subservient to jews nature of it all after reading that.
All e-crusaders should be forced to read Romans, but even then a lot of them seem to try to pilpul their way out of confronting what it actually says. Romans is probably the single most important book in showing what a Jewish sham the whole New Testament is.
>Yeah there's no way its 100% that way either because how would you find an allegorical comparison for something like book of Numbers? Its just big lists of family names and who was in what tent.
Kabbalists try to say that the census of 600,000+ men listed among the Israelites in numbers actually contains hidden meanings that only the wise like themselves are privy to.
>Right. If we consolidate it all into set-in-stone beliefs and make up too many rules, it would lead to needless infighting and hair-splitting when we all need to be pulling together and working together.
Seeing neopagans pontificating over the nature of the gods and who is and isn't a real pagan based on their theological stances is enough to make me reach for a fedora to tip. All the petty slap fighting over shit nobody cares about reminds me of the behavior Christians are so prone to. Even if someone is basically a fake pagan who doesn't even follow the rites, or who outright doesn't believe in the gods as anything other than archetypes or egregores or whatever, being culturally pagan is more important than actually believing in the gods. It's like how Christian atheists might as well just be Christians.
>Yeah that shits gay. I whinge a little seeing fetishism towards ancient Rome for the same reasons. These dudes are all putting the cart before the horse, we gotta tap into being a little tribal. Tribal warfare, THEN you can build the aqueduct.
Ancient Rome was a mixed bag. I'm not interested in trying to rebuild Rome. I'd rather that we aimed to surpass it.
>It is very alien, it doesn't feel like actual Christianity. The syncrectic fusion of paganism, christ, and various odds and ends. I think the speaking in Latin is a big part of the weirdness. And how much they focus on Mary, they focus on her more than christ himself and thats very jarring.
Even though I loathe the Catholic Church and don't like the way so many of them will promote a religion their actions don't seem to indicate that they actually take seriously, in some ways their lack of dedication isn't such a bad thing. My elderly Catholic family members come across as less religious than the younger Protestant ones. I don't know if I have a single Catholic family member who has directly done any missionary work in Third World dumps, but I definitely have Protestant ones who do. The Protestant ones are also more openly philosemitic. At least that's honest, but it's also completely embarrassing and self-abasing.

I think the Catholic Church has a much more negative influence on society than any Protestant sect though.

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>For mine ancestors they were mostly Prots.
I have to say that I was happy to discover recently that I have a Catholic ancestor who could trace his ancestors back to Swiss Protestants. I could only find evidence of that part of my family being Catholic after coming to America, which makes me think it might have just been for social reasons considering that he married a Catholic woman.
>I wonder how many agnostic people came to America back then? A lot of people just said they were Christian due to the social pressure but really weren't and lived without religious influence in their personal lives.
Given its emphasis on freedom of religion, America tended to be tolerant of dissenting views in matters of religion relative to its time, so it wouldn't surprise me if there were some who passed under the radar. From the little I understand of deism in the Anglosphere, they were less likely to rock the boat than the French variety and were often quasi-Christian culturally. Even if a lot of the top Founding Fathers weren't necessarily doctrinaire Christians, it's kind of hard for me to pin down their true thoughts. Thomas Jefferson, for example, proposed a design for the Great Seal that would have included the Israelites being led through the desert by the pillar of fire (the other side would have included Hengist and Horsa) but also disagreed with core tenets of Christianity. Both him and George Washington also hosted the French scholar Volney, who was an early Jesus mythicist, when he came to visit America. I struggle to fit people like that into simple categories. I'm not sure how accepted agnosticism would have been back then outside of a minority of people in intellectual circles, but I could see people hiding a lack of religious belief to keep up appearances.
>I had an irreligious upbringing and I'm glad of it because it instilled an intellectual curiousity into me and helped me to teach myself a lot of things and question authority
I sort of feel the same way about being raised religious. It was extremely painful to give up, and I'm the only member of my immediate family who ended up making it off the plantation. I would never raise a child with a religious upbringing, but I'm kind of proud I was able to overcome it considering how deep into it I went.
>I did too. Probably from gangster crime movies.
They had that association with me too, although I hadn't watched any mafia flicks at that time. I thought of them as being tough guys with slicked-back hair and New York accents who ate lots of pasta.
>They'd rather die than lose the ability to pull a lot of their little tricks and intrigues. Their pilpul, all their semantic games.
They can't just admit that their ancestors were swindled and sank so much into preserving a sick superstition, but then again their fraudulent Torah and its "chosen people" lie also give them an incomparable level of clout and power. They also like to try and pretend that it's not against gentiles when it so blatantly is. These dickheads love acting like everyone else was just a bunch of primitive cavemen with no ethical standards when they themselves were piggybacking off the more advanced cultures they came in contact with.
>Do you like the album "Why?" by Discharge. Its their later work but still a really good album.
I was actually lumping in Why? With their earlier work. I tend to think of everything up to and including that as one era, even if it's really not, and their next period up to (but excluding) Grave New World as another.

Why? is kind of a blur to me. Off the top of my head, I remember liking "Maimed and Slaughtered" and "Ain't No Feeble Bastard" well enough, but overall I much prefer the big wall-of-sound style they developed right afterwards.
>Do you like the band Assück? They are good.
They're another band I've heard of but never listened to. Their name reminds me of GG Allin.
>I do not like the band Dystopia, that is a band where I can not overlook their politics. I don't like them musically either.
They sound pretty faggy reading their Wikipedo page. I don't even think I'd be willing to give them a chance at this point. At one point I was actually listening to fruity bands like Nausea and Aus-Rotten (Ha! Gayyyy!), and I have no desire to revisit them at all.
>>178287
>So far I like what I see but one of the anons here needs to give up entirely on populism and embrace elite theory
I'm a populist insofar as I instinctively don't trust people in power and think average people have valid concerns that currently aren't being met at all by those in charge. I don't necessarily believe in trying to push popular sovereignty. The average person is a subject rather than a citizen in a true sense of the word and has an extremely limited amount of influence over the political process. I think it pays to be honest about this. I also don't like populism's tendency to reduce itself to lowest-common-denominator slopulism in order to cater to the worst tendencies of the common people.

My ideal would be a more decentralized system organized around smaller political units, but that's not the world we're living in. Representative democracy is a sham.

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>>178282
>>178283
>I never actually got into Lewis Black
I did as a teenager for like a week then moved on. There are serious limitations to the style of comedy thats just jewish neuroticism and ranting and raving. Jewish men menustrate for real. I recently listened to Pat Cooper on an old Opie N Anthony, holy shit, that guy Cooper was like the jewiest jew to ever jew lmao. I've been listening to a bunch of old O'n'A clips recently, I like Patrice O'Neal. He says all the typical nigger things they all say but at least he's funny about it.
>Peter Hook is one of my favorite bassists
Yeah Joy Division has a lot of killer basslines
>Control 2007 movie I like the fact that the actors actually performed the songs themselves.
It was a cool touch, made the movie more personal
>I always thought the part where one of the band members makes a remark like "I thought epilepsy was for spackers!" was pretty funny too.
I feel bad for people with epilepsy, that must be a really hard thing to live with. Especially in today's day and age with all the tech advances.
>Do you like Ulrich Schnauss or Lemon Jelly at all?
I'd have to look up Schnauss. I've liked what I've heard from Lemon Jelly so far, I've heard a few of their tracks on SomaFM
>I think Lemon Jelly shows what hip-hop could have been if those "musicians" had taste and creativity
It should've expanded on bands like Massive Attack and DJ Shadow and went in a more dreamy sound, yeah. Psychedelic and mellow and beat-focused.
>'60s soft psychedelia and sunshine pop
I love old psychedelic music. Don't know much about sunshine pop
>It's really hooky, over-the-top '80s pop with a tongue-in-cheek style
I think Win would be right up my alley. I saw on their artist page on my DL's site I use they were called like "Scottish pop culture deconstruction" or something, lul. I like the Scots sense of humor, this band appeals to me.
>a second-rate version of Gang of Four
I don't like Gang of Four so will pass on Fire Engines
>I think it's kind of interesting when members of the punk and post-punk scene would intersect with the pop world back then.
Made for richer, more varied sound in the music. We'll never see that again, all pop music is wrote by the 2 jews Max Martin and Dr. Luke. Lukas Gottlieb or w/e his KIKE name is. Copy and pasted sound for MKULTRA beta sex kittens to lip-sync to, music to fleece goyim to
>In some ways I'm more impatient. When I was younger I would force myself to listen to music I didn't really like because I felt like I had to appreciate it.
IDK that I'd call that impatenience though, just being comfortable in who you are and knowing what you like. You had to be tolerant and listen to the shit as a kid and stomach the bad bands to get to where you are today, a man in full! Thats how I see that at least. I remember slogging thru some real bad music, movies, media when young too.
>Penny Rimbaud's snare-heavy martial-style rhythms on Feeding of the 5,000
I love that sound too, martial and militant. It has a distinct Englishness to it. Makes the lyrics really stand out and pop. Their other albums are good too but that one is proably their best. I like Stations of the Crass a lot as well.
>Focusing so much on hot-button headline issues that are contemporaneous with the release of whatever the music just seems like short-term thinking to me
Albums like that very rarely stand the test of time. Imagine what the kids of 2040 will think hearing some orange man bad fuck le cheeto man "punk" album in 15 years. Or that MAGA rapper.
>I typically don't pay that much attention to lyrics
I don't either. If the politics is so readily apparent that I can pick up on them whining about White people in the 1st listen, I instantly drop.
>despite being sort of a political band and went more general with things
Whats that quote about big minds talk about ideas and concepts? Midwits reeeee about Drumpf. Or is it the peabrain brainlets that reee about Trump? You know the quote
>No Trend's anti-scenefaggotry attitude and I should probably give their music a try
I think you will like them. They are raw and real and practiced what they preached
>Employment, That's the only Kaiser Chiefs album I can recall ever listening to. It's been a long time since then, but I still remember bits and pieces of it.
They went from a debut with multiple hit singles, an album with no filler and just a great rock album; to super humdrum and anonymous sounding and they changed immediately into that, the most rapid and precipituous decline I can think of, of any band.
>Stylistically I actually preferred Testament to Exodus
I'd have to re-visit Testament its been a while since I listened to them
>Annihilator isn't a band I ever listened to that I know of
Alice in Hell is their 1 good album, the rest of their work is kinda underwhelming IMO. Demolition Hammer and Sepultura are my 2 personal favorites
>Nowadays I don't know which album I'd choose between Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets
For me its about do I wanna hear some killer guitar, or some wicked drums and basslines? If guitar, Lightning. If drums and bass, Puppets. They are both T-1st realistically, lul.
>Kill 'Em All appeals to me the most probably because it has my favorite riffs and overall sound. I sort of think of the tracks as being less progressive and more straightforward too compared to those albums.
Yeah fair point. Sometimes you don't wanna hear long songs after awhile. You can experience this in reverse also listening to a ton of grind bands and then wanting some long prog songs afterwards.
>…And Justice for All, which I can't get into at all anymore except for maybe "Eye of the Beholder."
For me its Harvester of Sorrow, One, Eye of the Beholder the best tracks on the album but yeah, I don't listen to it much either, their first 3 albums rule
>It's common to shit on Lars Ulrich nowadays, which is understandable on some level given his decline, but back in the '80s he seemed to be pretty well regarded as a drummer.
He is an excellent drummer. Wasn't he the guy who ragged on Napster back in the day? I'd insult him for that although hell, it was 30 years ago by now, I won't hold a grudge. Some people love holding grudges against ancient history but I'd rather not do that. I like the song "Fight Fire With Fire" too.

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>>178283
>>178284
>I think alot of music gets overvalued based on their lyrics.
Yeah, same. Maybe its a hylic/pneumatic divide like many things in modernity seem to be. The mundanes hone in on lyrics more because they can't appreciate the abstraction that is a guitar riff. Just a wild theory
>Sargent D and the S.O.D." is a monster.
Killer riff, great track. Album's first 6 or 7 tracks are all amazing. The riffs on Kill Yourself and Speak English or Die are good too, and I love the drums on Milk.
>It reminds me of the silly term "shitlord" that Internet leftists would apply to right-wingers, presumably because it doesn't step on the toes of any of their precious protected victim classes.
Oh god, could you imagine some dangerhair actually saying shitlord IRL? It makes me think of that Lord doll the dude from Jimmy Neutron was obsessed with, lul. Thats the level of infantility the left operates on anyways. Entire worldview comes from Steven Universe and the CW teen dramas! I love how we reclaimed the word chud from those fags as well. That OUR word now, lib boi
>I remember the format going by the name "counter-signal memes for fashy goys."
I remember that name too but its a bit clunky and I've just went with smuggies instead. People don't hardly make OC anymore, I think its because of the goyphones everywhere, less people are even on computers to open MS Paint in the first place
>I don't think I've listened to Sebadoh
Weed Forestin' is a good album of theirs.
>I have heard Guided by Voices. I remember liking a song or two from them, but I never listened to them all that heavily
They are a great band, the early stuff particularly. Bee Thousand is probably my favorite. I knew a dude who was a super fan of theirs. I'm admittedly not familiar with their new stuff.
>Daniel Johnston
I tried multiple times to listen to that album with the frog on the cover but I couldn't get into it. I like various outsider artists like him but some of them I don't like because it just feels like normies making fun of a slow person is the only reason we even know of the artist's existence and their body of work and its quite cruel. I love that dude Jandek though, I've got a bunch of his albums IRL.
>Drudkh
I like some of their stuff too
>As far as 21st-century black metal goes, I'm not that familiar with all that much
Do you know Imperial Triumphant? I like them. Weird and avant-garde, mind-bending music.
>Speaking of the term "lo-fi," it always bothers me when people treat it like a genre in itself and not just a loose descriptor of production style
I get your point that it is just a descriptor of the production style, but I'm grateful people online use it as a genre to list albums so I can pick thru the lists and find new artists. I get your point that its a wide net and kinda useless as a genre tag, but hell, I'm grateful for big lists of eclectic artists to comb thru.
>Washed Out
I love 'Paracosm' but he fell off hard after that album. Remember Toro Y Moi? I remember those bands were all the rage for a brief moment in time. Remember Real Estate 'Days'? That album was the cream of the crop for all those 'chill-rock' bands
>It gets my goat even more when people associate it specifically with hip-hop.
Yeah now this I fully agree with. Those lo-fi beats that are shilled by jewtube constantly put me to sleep the 1 time I clicked on them. And they were all very samey sounding. I don't wanna hear some "socially-conscious" "jazzy" rap shit, peak midwit bait. People talk up and overrate the wackest rappers
>It reminds me a bit of how bands like Black Sabbath would mix in softer tracks with the heavier songs on their albums
I like those interlude songs too. There's one on Master of Reality I believe that sounds like English medieval fairytale sounding. I like that kind of sound. Doing bard music in between metal tracks.
>I do like regular ambient music too, particularly the more smooth stuff.
Do you like dark ambient? You know the album 'Stalker' by Lustmord? I love that album. Do you know tribal ambient? SPK's "Byzantine Flowers" album is one of my all-time favorite albums. And there's an album by Controlled Bleeding that sounds a lot like that too just forget which one. Some of Test Dept's early stuff. I like straight-up tribal drumming music too on occasion. Some of James Ferraro's albums have that kind of sound. Indonesian music. Tribal, droning, drum-heavy sounds. And I like Egyptian-sounding stuff on occasion too, I love the band Nile. I like the dissonance, mind-bendy-ness of it.
>endless barrages of Napalm Death-style grindcore blast beats that drown everything else out I find tiresome nowadays
I can't listen to grind bands for long before getting tired of the blast beats, it makes all the music sound samey. I think Brutal Truth and Nasum are the best grind bands. Napalm Death is up there too. Admittedly don't listen to much of it. Liked grind a lot more as a kid. I like the band Wormrot.

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>>178284
>>178285
>Death metal
I like all 5 albums you mentioned, and Carcass rules, I love Carcass too. Bolt Thrower probably my favorite. You like Atheist, do you like Cynic? I've always considered Repulsion Horrified and Terrorizer World Downfall to be grindcore albums but its all metal at the end of the day. For me, I like Shub Niggurath [Mexico] "The Kinglike Celebration (Final Aeon On Earth)", Suffocation "Effigy Of The Forgotten", Nile, Meshuggah, Cryptosy, Pestilence, Dying Fetus's early work. These next bands I like are normally called deathcore, but I think they are good enough on their own merits to not be lumped in with -core bands. Cattle Decap, The Faceless, Ion Dissonance, Rings of Saturn's early work. And earlier when talking about grind bands, I meant to mention General Surgery. They shred.
>These aren't something I'm all that sure of though, since it's been so long
Fair enough. I listen to black metal bands more often too. And a lot of doom/drone
>Arch Enemy Burning Bridges
Good album. I remember playing them for dudes and showing them the singer was a chick lol. She had a killer voice
>Deteriorate "Rotting in Hell"
I'm glad you liked this album upon your 1st listen. It'll grow on you with more listens. Great album. And yeah, the cover art is great, I love that cover.
>Carcass "Heartwork"?
>I think that's the only pre-breakup album from Carcass I haven't heard. I think I'd be more into their earlier material, but that's just a guess.
Its a melo-death album and their most commercially succesful. I like their grind albums the best too but Heartwork is a really solid album in its own right. Probably my favorite melo-death album. I remember there was one In Flames album I really liked
>Onset of Putrefaction is one I definitely listened to in high school.
That album rules
>I've seen Atheist's style referred to as "muppet metal" once, and I kind of think of Necrophagist's music in similar terms.
lmfao @ muppet metal
>Technical death metal doesn't necessarily appeal to me, but I think it's interesting when it's taken to that extreme of complexity.
I like it myself. Those little snippets of Egyptian music Nile throws in are fuckin' awesome. I love the dissonance of it. You should check out the band Car Bomb's first 2 albums, they were highly-technical and had a killer sound.
>Pale Saints have a pretty pleasant sound.
Probably my favorite of the shoegaze bands. Them and Ride. Ride "Nowhere" is cool
>I didn't care for them. Maybe I should give them another chance.
I've tried his music multiple, multiple times as well. His lyrics are just needlessly depressing its like mopey torture porn. I knew a guy who loved this one folk singer's album that was brutal like that, I had to leave the room when he got in one of his moods and wanted to hear that music, straight up.
>Godflesh
"Pure" is a good album by him too. Interesting how he made those kinds of sounds come from drum machines, the gear-nerdyness that went into making his albums is kinda cool.
>Drum machines for something more rigid, artificial, or on the experimental side they can work well
Look up "Burning Cyborg - Entering Digital Infinity" and Gigantic Brain. The Berzerker. I had a guy show me some of those bands that play 1,000 RPM-plus, play so fast it splits in your mind and becomes a new song entirely, those bands make my head hurt. But if its a controlled level of fastness and not breaking new frontiers of the mind fast, then I like some of that music on occasion. I used to really like Venetian Snares "Doll Doll Doll" but now I just find that album dark and fucked up.
>analog drum machines more. They're less in your face but can also sound great with distortion.
I like the distorted, weird, futuristic cyber noises type of music that you can create with drum machines but like I say, if its so fast my mind can't even comprehend what I'm hearing, thats too far for me. It reminds me of the "Basilisk" from the sci-fi story "BLIT". Those graffiti taggers spraying digital images that short-circuit peoples brains and kill them.
>Patriot Front
People seemingly have forgotten about that guy from PF doing a march during the summer of floyd and they all were kneeling and he went up there and starting talking about how blacks are more masculine, and Whites really don't need guns. You should have the guns, black man! I'm almost certain that was PF that did that appalling display of cuckoldry. That got memoryholed quick
>I'm not socially conservative enough for projects like Return to the Land
Yeah good point, I guess I'm not either. I don't think going to church and having a wife is the solution to the current problems we face. People just don't wanna see it for what it is, and wanna complicate things because we live in an era of jewish domination and the jew rules us thru semantic word-magicks. Legalese for all. It really just comes down to TKD, TND, billions must die, and the motives of our enemies are as simple as 'kill Whitey'. But people wanna avoid the simple truth. And there's really only so much you can talk about online down this train of thought because of our rulecucked jewish surveillance hell.
>I'd like to live in an intentional community of some kind, but I'm not even sure what the standards would be.
Whites only to start, but then you'd have to put the applicants thru various tests of loyalty to weed out the real true-blue WN's from the grifters and proponents of various insidious poison. It would be hard to define clear, real standards for what type of people you're looking for without scaring away good people that can be moulded into what we need. I think there are people out there that can be taught thru righteous action the way to be and moulded into WN's, but I wouldn't put too much value into like a big-tent type thing. I think the way laid out in Siege or Turner Diaries is better.
>I'm a bit more open to color than I used to be, but I don't go crazy with it
It attracts attention to you also, if you don't want eyes on you, you shouldn't be too loud with color. In today's Flock surviellance hell, we should be "grey wolves" and hunt by silence.
>I don't know how easy it is to find a plain white t-shirt brand I'm satisfied with.
I like Hanes, their large sizes are good and roomy
>Hot Topic is definitely lame. Even as a teenager I thought it sucked. I did find a Slayer shirt the one time I went into one, but they've always catered to the wrong kind of people.
Shocked they even had Slayer merch, lol. I remember when pop-punk was the current thing and it brought a lot of normies into rock and metal. They sell rap shirts there now, its been niggerfied even further.

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>>178285
>>178286
>>178338
>Winter driving sucks too
Do you remember the Atlanta traffic apocalypse? It was a lot of snow for us, but probably nothing at all for y'all. People abandoning their cars on the side of the highway, huge trucker wrecks, absolute madness. We have a lot of elderly drivers in the South.
>don't sunburn that easily
Thats a good thing. I'm naturally pale and can burn easily. Its no big deal though. You rub that aloe vera juice on ya, takes the burn right out.
>most of the places in the world I don't think I'd mind living in weatherwise having terrible demographics
But see, the niggers are adapted for heat. I'd be worried the cold would make them snap mentally.
>Extreme humid southern heat Sounds hellish.
Its only been in the past 10, 15 years that we've been having genuinely dangerous levels of humid heat over 110 like that. Its connected to the weather weapons, NEXRAD, HAARP somehow, I'm sure of it. Its quite pleasant in the 90s. I think Obongo really accelerated the geo-engineering efforts, just like how he sped up the domestic propaganda with Smith-Mundt.
>I'm big on olive green and also like other subdued varieties of green, but I feel like they just work well with my appearance.
My color that works well for me is a light blue. Like that aqua teal shade of blue, but more on the blue side than greenish. Good soft ocean colors
>I much prefer Thomas Jefferson's idea of a natural aristocracy, but the question becomes how you prevent the natural aristocracy from pulling up the ladder on the ascending plebs
People pulling up the ladder and going 'fuck you, got mine' is an age-old problem, tbh. I know people try to say its a boomer-specific trait, but I think people throughout the ages have fallen for that mindset.
>Although I definitely find elite theory hard to argue with and believe that the majority of people are ignorant, I don't really trust a lot of the people pushing hard anti-populist sentiment.
Well, there's a definite distinction between malice and ignorance. Someone being ignorant is not necessarily an evil thing of itself, but people can combine the 2 and be both evil and ignorant. You can't get thru to a person like that, thats dumb and evil both, they are just hell-bent on destruction and its a very jewish mindset, destroy the world to re-make it in their personal tikkun olam image. There is a time and place to use populism to push our points. There is a time to hide our points and not let the masses be privy to them. As much as the term 'Overton Window' gets overused today, it is a legit concept and we need to use populist sentiment to spread our message. I feel like the message has spread as far as its humanly possible to go and time for raising awareness is past, and we turn to planning and matters of war.
>The majority of jews will never learn their lesson.
There's a great moral lesson to be learned for their pigheadedness. Don't be selfish to a point where people hate you. Its fine to value yourself and have a healthy sense of confidence and self-worth but the extreme degree the kikes take being selfish is demonic and its righteous and just that people hate them. Its anti-human and anti-life to disregard your fellow man to the extent they do.
>Israeli author, which is something that would have to be taken into consideration while going through it
You have to be on-guard and read what they write slowly, slower than you usually read so you can spot the snares and traps they lay, lul. But I'm not against reading Israeli writers if they have something poignant to say on an issue.
>I've read that a lot of Ashkenazis actually used to be Teutonophiles prior to WWII
That makes sense. They know more about German history and culture than some post-WW2 Germans do. And in TV and movies, in various media they make lots of Germanic references, nods to German mythology and things like that. Yidsrael as tsundere anime girl, lol.
>Regardless, it presents a serious problem if many were still holding on to their treacherous anti-gentile religion and its derivative culture
Yes this is a problem. The unsuspecting White sees them talk about White things and it piques their interest, the jew goes on about European history and culture some more and then when the time is ripe, plants the bad subversive seed, and leads the unassuming goy astray towards White self-hatred. They are subtle.
>The Jews that exist nowadays are the descended from the ones who managed to cling to their culture while many of their own people gradually ended up losing their identity.
In times past, they were less virulent a strain of kike, and some of the old authors and notable jews of history I could never see existing in today's age. They are all george carlin, itamir ben-gvir levels of spiteful hatred for humanity and someone like Spinoza would never happen again. I disavow Spinoza's worldview, just using him as the best example I can think of.
>I kind of wonder if it goes beyond the usual ascribed causes like genetics and into the weirder realm of something like Rupert Sheldrake's morphic resonance idea, where their traits aren't purely biological in nature. If that's true, then it's imperative that Jews do some serious cultural reform and introspection that goes beyond lachrymose navel gazing about how mean those gentiles are. It's something they'd have to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing.
I think it is a deep spiritual sickness they have. For all they claim our Gods to be idols and demons, the jews and the story of their coming into Europe and really just their whole race's history is a very extreme and jarring story and you look at the history of these people, so many jewish harlots and whores, such raucuous merchants, such eagerness to sell flesh and poison.. they made a pact with demons many centuries ago and still live under that curse to this day. For all that they say blacks are under "the curse of Ham", the jews are the race on Earth that acts most like they are under a curse! And about them having to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing self-reflection, its very true. They see this life as a big game, and as long as they are winning they think "why should I change?" but the game they are playing is "destroy all ensouled human beings on the planet in service of demons, lol, lmao" and it speaks to how truly stupid they are that they carry their plans out so fervently as they do. Having group narcissism to the extreme degree they have it is demonic too, I think.

Anonymous 09/03/26(Thu)02:38:50 No.178394

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>>178286
>>178338
>>178339
>lachrymose
Cool word!
>If there's anything demonic involved, I think it could be overcome. But that's also only if they'd be willing to try and deal with the problem
They never will. Dark scary man give me gold. Gold give me power. Me likey power. Meanwhile the whole Earth turns into a barren wasteland of dust and bones and they say "we won, the jews win" :-) - the myth of jewish high intelligence is just that, a myth, because they are incredibly spiritually immature. And their holding onto rituals so much. Killing some poor, defenceless chicken doesn't atone for your sins. Saying an oath that you disavow all the past year's oaths and start fresh, DOES NOT, indeed, start you fresh. Some of the things they believe are truly retarded.
>And if Yahweh is an all-powerful, all-knowing god, then any flaws in his creation ultimately come back to him.
Which leads me to think maybe the thing calling itself "God" is a dark entity wearing a mask and the true God of this world remains hidden and can just never be knowable. Which leads me to think, maybe we're prisoners here on a prison planet and there are higher realms we are meant for. Earth ruled over by Archons and we're really supposed to be Beings in 6-D reality or something higher. And also, I'd rather be a man of action and experience the richness and fullness of Life while I'm here instead of living in misery and going all-in on there being a 2nd life after. Some people have the faith to make that leap, and I can respect their force of will to make that decision, but I find it macabre and anti-life.
>The people who say Yahweh can do whatever he wants are operating off abusive parent logic.
For real. Its "I'm the parent and I make the rules" or the kid going "but why? why? but why?", "because I'm the dad, thats why!". And its circular logic because they are using the Bible, to prove the existence of the Bible. You need to use some outside sources alongside your internal readings both to prove a thing. There are also parts in the NT where Jesus just comes across as downright mean and cruel, as well, its not all just the OT god being a tyrant. Calling the Samitarian woman a dog, for one. Theres more, you know what I mean.
>The goyim are ultimately stuck flagellating themselves over their inherently evil nature, while the Jews don't believe they're suffering from an inborn taint due to the supposed sins of Adam and Eve
You can convince a guilty man of anything, he will say or do anything to absolve the guilt-feeling from him if it festers for long enough or is a severe enough transgression he thinks he did. Its phantom guilt, phantom pentenance, that they instill with the christinsanity. And the parallels between this and dudes like Boas, Marcuse, Columbia university cultural marxism is obvious. Keep them full of guilt and then offer them the solution (White extinction).
>The people who emphasize allegorical interpretations above literal ones are definitely more reasonable, but I feel like people need to shit or get off the pot. Accept that there were plenty of insane ideas intended by the writers of the Bible, and be delusional enough to accept them as true or be rational and reject them (preferably the whole Bible).
Good point. I think the people who talk LARPy about the Bible and want to treat it like stories and myth, etc., exist largely online-only. IRL people are more resolute in their belief.
>All e-crusaders should be forced to read Romans, but even then a lot of them seem to try to pilpul their way out of confronting what it actually says
How!? Ain't enough pilpul in the world to weasel your way around passages like "first to the Jew, then to the Gentile" or the entirety of Rom. 13 about submit to authority, pay your taxes, God elected those leaders! Pay up! I don't understand how people live with such cognitive dissonance, you straight up have to pick White Nationalism or Christianity after reading book of Romans, I feel like.
>Kabbalists try to say that the census of 600,000+ men listed among the Israelites in numbers actually contains hidden meanings that only the wise like themselves are privy to.
kike equivalent to nigger Rakeem rapping to me about "divine mathematic cyphers", and all that 5 percenter nonsense lol. The 7, that the Ankh cuz, we gunna come back as Pharoah and shieeeett. That divine numbah 8 playa! Word word black. The numbers 0-9 and all the colors combined, endlessly playing in the Egyptian shape store forever. Thats what the kabbalists and the spiritual jewish thought-leaders sound like to me, its the same shit.
>Seeing neopagans pontificating over the nature of the gods and who is and isn't a real pagan based on their theological stances is enough to make me reach for a fedora to tip. All the petty slap fighting over shit nobody cares about reminds me of the behavior Christians are so prone to
I know it, man. Its different names for the same Gods, they represent the same elements and concepts, its not meant to be turned into some big pedantic slapfight spergout. We all got thunder god, god of the forge, rain woman, etc. - AllFather wants us to go out and conquer, not bicker amongst ourselves over the name of AllFather.
>Even if someone is basically a fake pagan who doesn't even follow the rites, or who outright doesn't believe in the gods as anything other than archetypes or egregores or whatever, being culturally pagan is more important than actually believing in the gods.
You get it. Its about freeing people from the abrahamic yoke. Freeing people from the abrahamic yoke is a spiritually pure and positive thing to do no matter what, those people are in bondage to the black cube and damned to rebirth as a lower form/being. Giving them guidance so they don't spiral out into one of the many death cults in today's world, making sure they don't become expert-trusters or troons.
>I'm not interested in trying to rebuild Rome
I'm not either, IDK what made me brought it up, something about the train of thought about pagans needlessly infighting. Fair Ireland, fairest Scotland, never conquered under the Roman yoke.
>Even though I loathe the Catholic Church and don't like the way so many of them will promote a religion their actions don't seem to indicate that they actually take seriously, in some ways their lack of dedication isn't such a bad thing
Its really a hidden blessing, keeps them open to hearing the Truth and leave church.
>The Protestant ones are also more openly philosemitic
Its a cancer upon America and a deep-rooted cancer that must be dealt with. And no matter how many times they branch out and splay out into 7589437598 different denominations, they always turn into zionist swine, foul, always evangelize and wrap themselves in the pissraeli flag, funny how that is!! Mudshark levels of traitor-ness, and genuinely the looniest people on planet Earth to believe that 3rd temple, rapture, etc. they believe in.

Anonymous 09/03/26(Thu)02:45:23 No.178395

>>178392
You mean that part where I talk about SPK, Test Dept, etc? Great minds think alike, haha. You know the song "Sheer Naked Aggression" by SPK? Thats a great song. And I love that Test Dept album "Pax Britannica"

Anonymous 09/03/26(Thu)03:32:02 No.178397

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>>178338
>>178339
>The Protestant ones are also more openly philosemitic. At least that's honest, but it's also completely embarrassing and self-abasing.
Its mudshark levels of embarrasing and self-abusive the way they carry on about "the chosen land" and "god's people; the jews". I've always thought that as the boomers die out, this strain of thought will go with them. I sure hope so, because these people want to destroy the world for their goddamned 3rd temple and the 2nd coming that's never happening, and no sane person ever would want to happen!! Whacked out prots and insane talmudic rabbis, working hand-in-glove to kill us all!
>I think the Catholic Church has a much more negative influence on society than any Protestant sect though.
Globally, yes. For America specifically, I think the 3rd temple type people are more damaging. Even then, a lot of that is contained in the south/midwest. There's a specific term for their beliefs, I just can't be bothered to dignify them with a proper label. They don't deserve.
>which makes me think it might have just been for social reasons considering that he married a Catholic woman.
I think so much more than we realize of christinsanity's spread in the West was due to social reasons and people just going along to get along, not wanting to rock the boat and just converting to keep the peace but privately not believing. And people wanting their kids to have friends to play with, so letting them go to church but then not preaching to them in private or talking about church or anything.
>From the little I understand of deism in the Anglosphere, they were less likely to rock the boat than the French variety and were often quasi-Christian culturally
The French produce so many great authors, and so much good literature. I think they had intellectual debates over agnosticism, atheism, and wanted to have a group discussion about it whereas the English would just not believe, not tell anyone, and go about their lives.
>Even if a lot of the top Founding Fathers weren't necessarily doctrinaire Christians, it's kind of hard for me to pin down their true thoughts.
Multi-faceted men that loved their nation and the people, much better than what "leaders" we have now that are no leader at all
>I could see people hiding a lack of religious belief to keep up appearances.
It was definitely more hidden back then. Some salt of the earth working type that just doesn't believe and doesn't feel the need to discuss religious stuff I could get along with much better than those christians who say "everyone should be CULTURALLY christian, they should at least profess belief and go to church weekly, America is a christian nation!", those people are out of pocket and fundamentally misunderstand what America is about. The Founding Fathers didn't want some theocracy, people should explore and be curious, and learn about the world around them. For all that modernity claims tolerance, equality, it was the olden times that people actually were more open-minded and tolerant of each other.
>Jefferson, Washington, pillar of fire seal, hosting Volney, hard to pin them down
A lot of it is due to them being Masons, I think. They just liked learning about esoteric and occult things.
>It was extremely painful to give up, and I'm the only member of my immediate family who ended up making it off the plantation
I'm glad you got off the plantation too. People can spend their whole lifes inside the grips of church and bible. Its really demented, really anti-life and anti-human if you think about it.
>I'm kind of proud I was able to overcome it considering how deep into it I went.
The human mind and soul are the most resilient things in the world. There is a stubborness and narrow-mindness in today's age.
>I thought of them as being tough guys with slicked-back hair and New York accents who ate lots of pasta.
My hair grows insanely straight, I oughta try slicking it back some time just for the lolz. A few geniunely are hardmen but its all hollywood B.S. end of the day. There are hardmen in every race.
>They can't just admit that their ancestors were swindled and sank so much into preserving a sick superstition
Sunk-cost fallacy going back thousands of years because they can't admit it was actually a demon they signed a pact with and they are under a curse and not "chosen". Imagine!
>They also like to try and pretend that it's not against gentiles when it so blatantly is
They lie as easily as they breathe. And with them big hawk noses, oh how they breathe! Oh the lies!
>These dickheads love acting like everyone else was just a bunch of primitive cavemen with no ethical standards when they themselves were piggybacking off the more advanced cultures they came in contact with.
I saw something recently that stuck with me, might have been here probably was on tvchan, but the art of the jews, their literature, the way they see the world is so angular and jaunt. Hard lines. Right angles. Sharp and in contrast. If anyone on earth is the cavemen, its them. All the mongrelization they suffered over the years, all the inbreeding, combined with seeing everything like a caveman to begin with… who's really mindraped, at the end of the day?
>Discharge overall I much prefer the big wall-of-sound style they developed right afterwards
I'll give their newer stuff another listen
>Dystopia They sound pretty faggy reading their Wikipedo page
They are, screw em. Fauci punk
>I also don't like populism's tendency to reduce itself to lowest-common-denominator slopulism
This is the worst part of populism and can get so bad at times, that whatever gains you get from it as a system aren't even worth it. It served its role in raising mass human awareness and racial consciousness, but I think the lines in the sand are drawn, and as many Whites on Earth are gonna be ethno-centric as we can possibly get by now.

Anonymous 09/06/26(Sun)22:50:24 No.178429

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I'm still working on replying and figured in the meantime it might be worth reposting the recent /pol/ image archives. It gets them all in one place, and plus maybe someone who hasn't seen the links might be interested.

Ben Garrison:
https://fileditchfiles.st/alpha18/581ab2a07c3f4dfb3e73/Zyklon_Ben_Archive.7z
A. Wyatt Mann cartoons:
https://buzzheavier.com/aid98rpncflg
Merchants and merchant edits:
https://buzzheavier.com/bgdazfj68bnz

Anonymous 09/06/26(Sun)22:53:24 No.178430

>>178429
Disregard the A. Wyatt Mann link. The file was deleted. I can try reuploading it if someone wants it.

Anonymous 09/06/26(Sun)22:59:44 No.178431

>>178430
>Disregard the A. Wyatt Mann link. The file was deleted.
That didn't take long.

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>>178431
I'm assuming it was because they didn't like the content. They say "Files will be kept forever as long as it was downloaded 30 times within the last 60 days," but it hasn't even been that long yet.

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>>178429
They came for the merchants now.
>>178387
>Yeah Joy Division has a lot of killer basslines
The fact that their equipment problems led to them making the bass the lead melodic instrument was a happy accident.
>I feel bad for people with epilepsy, that must be a really hard thing to live with. Especially in today's day and age with all the tech advances.
I just think it's funny that he thought that epilepsy had anything to do with being retarded.
>I love old psychedelic music.
Are you into The Lemon Fog or Sunlight? I just discovered the latter band.
>Don't know much about sunshine pop
It's a loose, retroactive label for lush, harmony-driven pop and soft rock from the late '60s. Think "Happy Together" by The Turtles or The Mamas and the Papas (not that I'm very big on them, but they're a useful reference point). There's crossover with other psychedelia, folk, and other styles of pop.

I'd recommend Begin by The Millennium as a good entry point.
>I think Win would be right up my alley. I saw on their artist page on my DL's site I use they were called like "Scottish pop culture deconstruction" or something, lul. I like the Scots sense of humor, this band appeals to me.
I like the fact that they subtitled the album "A Trash Icon" and were unapologetically making big, glossy, hook-filled pop songs. When I heard "You've Got the Power," I found it so catchy that I immediately tracked down the full album. Some songs I like more than others, but I wasn't disappointed with the record as a whole. I think it's nuts that they weren't bigger. I would take it over similar '80s pop records like Invisible Touch.
>I don't like Gang of Four so will pass on Fire Engines
Gang of Four isn't a band I've listened to in a long time, but I liked their sound the last time I heard them. I just didn't find the The Fire Engines very compelling from the tracks I heard.
>If the politics is so readily apparent that I can pick up on them whining about White people in the 1st listen
Same.
>Whats that quote about big minds talk about ideas and concepts? Midwits reeeee about Drumpf. Or is it the peabrain brainlets that reee about Trump? You know the quote
Absolutely. That kind of thing always bothers me. It doesn't even necessarily matter who the subject of derision is. People who know diddly dick about politics always resort to bitching about whatever puppet is currently occupying the Oval Office, as if that makes them astute and well informed about the issues of their time. I feel the same way about people bitching about Biden or whoever as I do Trump. It's not that either one should be held above criticism, but do these people think things were just peachy keen before their personal bugbear entered the White House? They're just going for the low-hanging fruit. It makes me think of the time when Marco Roboto's programming broke down during that debate in the lead-up to the 2016 election and he kept repeating himself ranting about Obongo as an attempt to throw out red meat for Republicans with low standards:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFdjsrKkx2o
>For me its Harvester of Sorrow, One, Eye of the Beholder the best tracks on the album but yeah, I don't listen to it much either, their first 3 albums rule
I think the production really brings down the album for me. It's not even just the lack of bass. I hate the drum sound too. Comparing the album version of "Harvester of Sorrow" to the 1991 Monsters of Rock performance in Moscow is like night and day for me.
>He is an excellent drummer. Wasn't he the guy who ragged on Napster back in the day? I'd insult him for that although hell, it was 30 years ago by now, I won't hold a grudge. Some people love holding grudges against ancient history but I'd rather not do that. I like the song "Fight Fire With Fire" too.
Yeah, he was the one leading the charge. I have to say that I don't like the guy. He seems like a prick. But at the same time, he catches way too much flak. He plays a crucial role in arranging the band's songs, and Metallica wouldn't even be around if it weren't for him.

People like to shit on him for that scene in Some Kind of Monster where he plays an off-kilter beat trying to spice things up that leads to him and Jimmy Hetfield arguing. Watching that kind of made me empathize with him in that instance. He was trying (and failing) to come up with something that worked without also being a retread of the type of thing he's done over and over and ended up getting shat on for it by what seems like most of the people who watched the documentary. He still comes across as a passive-aggressive dickhead, but I get where he's coming from when Hetfield's riff was so generic. He would have been better off playing something boring and standard, but it makes sense to try and come up with an odd part to at least make part of the song stand out. I think he's overly abrasive and unsympathetic and past his prime, but it's like people are just looking for extra reasons to dump all over him. Even if Metallica were set up in a way where everyone else could just fire him and hire Dave Lombardo or someone instead, it wouldn't be the same band anymore.

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>>178389
>Yeah, same. Maybe its a hylic/pneumatic divide like many things in modernity seem to be. The mundanes hone in on lyrics more because they can't appreciate the abstraction that is a guitar riff. Just a wild theory
I genuinely don't get it, especially seeing as how normgroids will often latch onto the most inane lyrics as if they're something of value. They'll hear "baby baby baby oh yeah na na na tonight" in some flavor-of-the-month Top 40 turd and act like it's a deep insight about the human condition.

Bob Dylan cultists make me roll my eyes too. Not that long ago I saw some guy say something like "Even Bob Dylan doesn't know what some of his songs mean!" Then why are the fanboys always praising them as profound, deeply meaningful poetry for the ages and treating Dylhole like he can walk on water? I actually like the idea of going full Wayne Hussey and writing lyrics you just think sound cool, but you can't have it both ways. Since I don't find Bob Dylan musically compelling and don't care about his lyrics, I don't understand his appeal.
>Killer riff, great track. Album's first 6 or 7 tracks are all amazing. The riffs on Kill Yourself and Speak English or Die are good too, and
Speaking of lyrics, at least S.O.D.'s are funny. That's of more value than what's on offer from your average lyricist in popular music.
>I love the drums on Milk.
Yeah, and as far as I know that was the song that popularized blast beats in the metal scene. Before that they were a hardcore punk thing.
>It makes me think of that Lord doll the dude from Jimmy Neutron was obsessed with, lul.
Ultra Lord? I wonder what Ultra Shitlord would look like.
>I remember that name too but its a bit clunky and I've just went with smuggies instead.
Was "smuggies" ever an official name? I'm just wondering how out of the loop I am with this stuff. I think it's been close to 10 years since I stopped paying attention to TRS.
>People don't hardly make OC anymore, I think its because of the goyphones everywhere, less people are even on computers to open MS Paint in the first place
It's sad. It was bad enough when Redditards were trying to suck all the charm out of MS Paint OC with their gay vectorized images, but now we don't even have much Paint OC period.
>Weed Forestin' is a good album of theirs.
I think I'm confusing them with some indie band from that era that featured a trumpet in their music. I'm not really familiar with that whole scene.
>They are a great band, the early stuff particularly. Bee Thousand is probably my favorite.
That's the one I heard. Maybe I should listen to it again.
>I tried multiple times to listen to that album with the frog on the cover but I couldn't get into it. I like various outsider artists like him but some of them I don't like because it just feels like normies making fun of a slow person is the only reason we even know of the artist's existence and their body of work and its quite cruel.
His terrible singing really lowers the quality of the music to me. I don't want to knock Daniel Johnston's memory or anything and am not completely without appreciation for his work, but I feel like he's developed a following out of proportion with his actual level of talent.

I haven't heard his later material. Maybe he got better after he teamed up with other musicians, but to me part of the charm is the crude tape recording of the old stuff.
>Do you know Imperial Triumphant? I like them. Weird and avant-garde, mind-bending music.
I know the name but haven't heard them.
>I get your point that it is just a descriptor of the production style, but I'm grateful people online use it as a genre to list albums so I can pick thru the lists and find new artists. I get your point that its a wide net and kinda useless as a genre tag, but hell, I'm grateful for big lists of eclectic artists to comb thru.
I'm fine with using it as something you'd tag an album with on a site like Last.fm or whatever. It's just using it as an actual genre that gets my goat.

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>I love 'Paracosm' but he fell off hard after that album.
I just know the early EPs. I think I might have heard Within and Without and given up on him when that came out.
>Remember Toro Y Moi?
Definitely the name, but I think I only listened to an album one time. I listened to some of those other guys though. I started with Neon Indian and then ended up hearing Memory Cassette/Memory Tapes, Small Black, Teen Daze, and Millionyoung, besides Washed Out. There are also others I remember less. I liked Well-Known Pleasures from Alan Palomo's VEGA project too.

Even though there was definitely some indie-culture faggotry at play with the whole "chillwave" thing, especially the effeminate hipster vocals (Memory Tapes really comes to mind), I like that kind of music. In some ways I even prefer the more personal focus it felt like it had compared to the later 2010s memewave music. I like the way the latter would take heavier inspiration from vintage media (in the sense that some of it would try to hew more to the spirit of '80s music; obviously there was also a lot of Flanderization and lame misrepresentation that would go on, especially over time, but it wasn't always that way), but at the same time it often felt overly referential to pop culture in a way that lacked subtlety.
>I remember those bands were all the rage for a brief moment in time. Remember Real Estate 'Days'? That album was the cream of the crop for all those 'chill-rock' bands
I don't think I've even heard that one.
>I like those interlude songs too. There's one on Master of Reality I believe that sounds like English medieval fairytale sounding. I like that kind of sound. Doing bard music in between metal tracks.
Are you thinking of "Embryo"? "Orchid" is the one that appeals to me more. I like those sunny arpeggios.
>Do you like dark ambient?
Not proper dark ambient. I like ambient that's dark, like Ambient 4 by Brian Eno, but I'm not into the more noisy stuff.
>Do you know tribal ambient?
I'm not sure if I've ever heard any, although I think Steve Roach has dabbled in it. Reflections in Suspension is probably my favorite ambient album (I really like Quiet Music too), but I'm not familiar with much of his later work.

Other than that I don't really know anything about it.
>SPK's "Byzantine Flowers" album is one of my all-time favorite albums
I downloaded this after looking it up and hearing excerpts of what sounds like the soundtrack to a '90s historical strategy game. That piqued my interest.
>Some of James Ferraro's albums have that kind of sound
I only know his Far Side Virtual style. As silly as that album is, I unironically like "Dubai Dream Tone."
>Indonesian music
Like gamelan? I've been known to listen to Suara Parahiangan on occasion. I think Lou Harrison's Gamelan Music album is (mostly) good too, if that counts.

Speaking of ethnic music from that part of the world, I found this weird release on /mu/ back in the day and have always liked it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9EXerB5PI5Y

I had to do a reverse image search on the artwork to even find out what it was. It was labeled as "Malaysia Big Band," but I got no results with that name.

It's just an odd little novelty I felt like mentioning.
>I can't listen to grind bands for long before getting tired of the blast beats, it makes all the music sound samey. I think Brutal Truth and Nasum are the best grind bands. Napalm Death is up there too. Admittedly don't listen to much of it. Liked grind a lot more as a kid. I like the band Wormrot.
I don't like pure grindcore. It really has to be adulterated for me to like it, like some of the albums I listed. I don't like records that feel like they're filled with pretty much nothing but minute-long blast-beat cannonades where you can't hear the riffs. I feel like the production often isn't helping anything either. Reek of Putrefaction is an album where I can at least tell some of the songs apart and like the overall sound. It doesn't feel tinny to me the way other grindcore albums do. I don't have a proper vocabulary to accurately describe it, but it feels more warm and organic to me. That feels appropriate given the disgusting subject, but I also find it pleasant compared to something like From Enslavement to Obliteration.

Black metal blast beats I usually don't have the same problem with. I really like them when done right. I don't know if it's a mixing thing or a difference in technique, but I think of old-school black metal blast beats as having a less cymbal-heavy sound. I'm not a fan of modern metal drumming at all though.

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>>178391
>I like all 5 albums you mentioned, and Carcass rules, I love Carcass too. Bolt Thrower probably my favorite.
If I had to narrow the old down further, I'd say Repulsion and Atheist are my favorites. I'm not sure which one I'd choose between the two if I were forced, but I find the sound of Repulsion more viscerally appealing. It's definitely my favorite grindcore album.
>You like Atheist, do you like Cynic?
I actually listened to Focus again recently and liked "I'm But a Wave to…," although the rest of the album didn't stick out to me. I do like the clean guitar work, and I'll probably come back to the album again.
>I've always considered Repulsion Horrified and Terrorizer World Downfall to be grindcore albums but its all metal at the end of the day.
You're right in that I would call them more grindcore than death metal, but also I frequently see them both labeled death metal. Both bands were also inspired by thrash metal. They're kind of a mixture of sounds. At that point metal and punk bands were less stylistically inbred due to broader musical interests and less of a tendency toward self-pigeonholing. There was a lot more categorical fluidity in those days. Besides, my list would be even smaller if I wasn't including death-metal-adjacent grindcore.

This isn't necessarily related to death metal vs. grindcore, but for a long time there's been a serious tendency among metal fans to try to redefine genre terms of past works in order to fit modern conceptions of how a particular genre is "supposed" to sound. I recently even saw someone saying that they consider Bathory to be proto-black metal and not actually black metal, and that kind of thing basically amounts to rewriting history in order to reorient musical terminology around later developments that they think represent "truer" black metal. I've noticed for a long time that most it's becoming more common for non-Black Sabbath bands from the '70s that would have been labeled as heavy metal acts back then to be retroactively demoted to "just hard rock," as if "heavy metal" wasn't almost completely synonymous with "hard rock" (often in a derogatory way) as soon as it entered popular usage. I once saw a clip where Kirk Hammett mentioned that "hard rock" was the term they used for metal back when he was in high school. I think it was the rise of extreme metal that changed things. Then people gradually began to conflate "metal" with "extreme metal" and give the older bands the shaft. I'm actually not even that big on a lot of the earlier music, but that was where it all started.

I also see people trying to draw an even starker line between metal and rock and denying that metal is a form of rock at all. I think Brett Stevens from ANUS used to do that. I get that those people find the bourgeois showbiz origins of rock music embarrassing, but to try and cut off extreme metal from its roots is just silly, pretentious, and at odds with the actual history. There are clear lines of influence going from extreme metal all the way back to the rock music of the '60s and '70s and even '50s rock and roll if you want to go back that far. It's just ignorantly denying the musical taxonomy. Calling something like Immortal or Cannibal Corpse "rock" might be too vague to offer a useful description of their sound, but I feel the same way about just calling pretty much anything plain "rock." Speaking of Immortal, I remember once seeing an Abbath interview where he quoted "It's Only Rock 'n Roll" by The Rolling Stones. At least he gets it.

Nowadays you even see people trying to claim "heavy metal" and "metal" are two different things. I think narrowly focused musical subcultures are pretty gay, but it does bother me to see how metal fans these days seem so hellbent on cutting themselves off from their musical roots and also how faggy they've gotten.

Anyway, I just felt like ranting about all that.
>And yeah, the cover art is great, I love that cover.
That kind of handmade album art is so charming, even when they look crude or outright silly. Show No Mercy by Slayer and Metal Magic by early Pantera come to mind (not that I'm a fan of that stage of the band). In Battle There is No Law! too.
>Probably my favorite of the shoegaze bands.
I would take them over something like a bigger band like Slowdive, who have never done much of anything for me. It might be trite to say, but I think My Blood Valentine would be my favorite just because of Loveless. As far as their other work is concerned, I probably like the non-shoegaze Strawberry Wine songs the most. Then it would be Cocteau Twins, who wouldn't be considered shoegaze nowadays when shoegaze and dream pop are considered two different genres, but whatever. I think they're more consistently enjoyable than My Bloody Valentine, even I don't see any album of their as being on par with Loveless. Up next I would probably put Lush. Pale Saints might be up there too, but since I only listened to them recently I feel like I need to get a bit more familiar with them before saying something like that without any reservations. It would seem a bit presumptuous to decide that at this point.
>People seemingly have forgotten about that guy from PF doing a march during the summer of floyd and they all were kneeling and he went up there and starting talking about how blacks are more masculine, and Whites really don't need guns. You should have the guns, black man! I'm almost certain that was PF that did that appalling display of cuckoldry. That got memoryholed quick
Was that Curt Doolittle from the Propertarian Institute you're thinking of? I thought he did something like that. I think there might have been something about him pissing his pants too.

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Maybe someone from Patriot Front had something like that happen, but if that's the case I know nothing about it.

I like Patriot Front overall, although I kind of feel like I have a bit of a different idea of America than Thomas Rousseau and don't agree with them on everything.
>Yeah good point, I guess I'm not either. I don't think going to church and having a wife is the solution to the current problems we face. People just don't wanna see it for what it is, and wanna complicate things because we live in an era of jewish domination and the jew rules us thru semantic word-magicks. Legalese for all. It really just comes down to TKD, TND, billions must die, and the motives of our enemies are as simple as 'kill Whitey'. But people wanna avoid the simple truth. And there's really only so much you can talk about online down this train of thought because of our rulecucked jewish surveillance hell.
I think it's necessary for people to start families and everything, but it's not something I've ever felt cut out for or had the drive to do. I think metapolitics and real-life organizing and advocacy are more important than just having kids. I'm also more a bit more socially libertarian than those guys. I took that Pew Typology quiz a few times, and it labeled me "Unconventional Right." I also took the NeoValues quiz, which doesn't have an exact match, but it says the closest thing to my views is "Conservative Social Democracy." If I'm conservative, then conservatism probably doesn't mean very much.

>Whites only to start, but then you'd have to put the applicants thru various tests of loyalty to weed out the real true-blue WN's from the grifters and proponents of various insidious poison. It would be hard to define clear, real standards for what type of people you're looking for without scaring away good people that can be moulded into what we need. I think there are people out there that can be taught thru righteous action the way to be and moulded into WN's, but I wouldn't put too much value into like a big-tent type thing. I think the way laid out in Siege or Turner Diaries is better.
What I'd like to see is countless different types of communities, ranging from hardline traditionalists to
ones that are more culturally bohemian but exclusionary toward anti-Whites and people with non-White kids. I think if you have real freedom of association and can create nice White enclaves that stand in contrast to dysfunctional "diverse" ones, then you'd have plenty of people interested even among normgroids. That would especially be the case if they're relaxed on a cultural level and not based around some Little House on the Praireactionary (to use an old altleft.com phrase) philosophy. Most people follow social incentives and cultural programming and don't necessarily have strong opinions of their own.

For more softer people out there, you could even have ones that allow a few BASED nons in (maybe you could get away with banning them from having kids or make them agree to sterilize themselves). Separate from more pure communities, of course. I just view the situation as something that requires a sliding-scale approach to cater to different kinds of people. Preserving White endogamy, increasing White power and influence, and eventually reversing demographic decline are the things I'm most concerned about. I think anything that moves toward these things is good. Another thing I think is crucial is to destroy "proposition nation" mythology and the idea that nons can be American (or European, Australian, or whatever else the nation in question may be). That idea might be the thing that stings the most to me about our situation. It's basically telling Whites that they have countries or cultures of their own, and most post-WWII "Americanism" is in direct opposition to actual nationalism. While nations in some sense are artificial constructs (from what I understand, Thuringian Germans are closer to Poles, Czechs, and Croats than they are to Hessians, Rhinelanders, and Baden-Wuerttembergers; I've also seen reason to believe that an Austrian might be more closely related to a Portuguese person than some Han Chinese are to each other), there is still an essential biological component involved as well that was a recognized part of the package long before the age of nation states began. I don't see much of a problem with considering a half-Irish and half-English person to be English given the close genetic proximity of the Irish, for example, but it becomes completely ridiculous when you're talking about someone with significant non-European ancestry. Conservatives love gloating about how those dumb leftists can't define a woman, but conservatives also can't tell you what an American is. Maybe your friend Paco or Tyrone genuinely appreciates American culture and actually is "one of the good ones," but that doesn't make them Americans any more than a guy in the dress being able to pass as a woman actually makes him one. This civic pseudo-nationalism nonsense is infuriating and needs to be flushed down the toilet of history. To get back on track, intentional communities would be an invaluable tool for people who can see what's going on to seriously resist this suicidal idiocy.

The real question is whether White intentional communities will be allowed. I sure hope RTTL wins their legal battles.
>I like Hanes, their large sizes are good and roomy
I like form-fitting shirts that aren't totally skin-tight ones like that kind bodybuilders sometimes wear. It's hard for me to find anything that doesn't have loose sleeves, and shopping for clothing has gotten more difficult for me with the changing trends compared to in the 2010s.

>Shocked they even had Slayer merch, lol. I remember when pop-punk was the current thing and it brought a lot of normies into rock and metal. They sell rap shirts there now, its been niggerfied even further.
Yeah, I was glad to see something from Slayer, at least. That's depressing if they're catering to rap retards now. I've always loathed pop punk (Tom Delonge has one of the most insufferable voices I've ever heard) and most mallcore, but at least that stuff was still rock.

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>>178393
>Do you remember the Atlanta traffic apocalypse? It was a lot of snow for us, but probably nothing at all for y'all. People abandoning their cars on the side of the highway, huge trucker wrecks, absolute madness. We have a lot of elderly drivers in the South.
I don't remember that specifically, but it makes sense if people aren't used to driving in those conditions every year and the infrastructure isn't in place to handle it. Up here the snowplows are always ready to go in the wintertime. If we had Southern summers up here, people would also probably be unprepared to take it.
>People pulling up the ladder and going 'fuck you, got mine' is an age-old problem, tbh. I know people try to say its a boomer-specific trait, but I think people throughout the ages have fallen for that mindset.
Yeah. Even as bad as boomers can be, I try to call out their selfishness as a generation without going overboard with it. In a lot of ways they're just a product of the environment they grew up in.
>Well, there's a definite distinction between malice and ignorance. Someone being ignorant is not necessarily an evil thing of itself, but people can combine the 2 and be both evil and ignorant. You can't get thru to a person like that, thats dumb and evil both, they are just hell-bent on destruction and its a very jewish mindset, destroy the world to re-make it in their personal tikkun olam image. There is a time and place to use populism to push our points. There is a time to hide our points and not let the masses be privy to them. As much as the term 'Overton Window' gets overused today, it is a legit concept and we need to use populist sentiment to spread our message. I feel like the message has spread as far as its humanly possible to go and time for raising awareness is past, and we turn to planning and matters of war.
I agree that there's only so far you can "redpill" people. It doesn't scale infinitely. At some point you just wind up with diminishing returns.
>There's a great moral lesson to be learned for their pigheadedness. Don't be selfish to a point where people hate you. Its fine to value yourself and have a healthy sense of confidence and self-worth but the extreme degree the kikes take being selfish is demonic and its righteous and just that people hate them. Its anti-human and anti-life to disregard your fellow man to the extent they do.
It's normal to prefer your own kind, but they take it to another level. There's no reciprocity involved for nationalist or racialist gentiles who support Jewish in-group identity. A fair, levelheaded Jew would get that it's only fair play to support the rights of gentile nations to follow their own racial interests if gentiles have been so willing to stick up for their rights to do likewise. I could even understand the way Israelis treat Palestinians more if they treated it like a dirty job they were reluctant to do, but the rhetoric of many Israelis seems bloodthirsty in the way they seem to take pleasure in their suffering and get off on inflicting pain on them. They're an extremely grandiose, self-centered group of people, and I'm glad to see public opinion turning against them. Now if only we could get rid of all the controlled-opposition stooges trying to blame "fake Jews" and defend the Bible that made Jews the way they are…
>That makes sense. They know more about German history and culture than some post-WW2 Germans do. And in TV and movies, in various media they make lots of Germanic references, nods to German mythology and things like that. Yidsrael as tsundere anime girl, lol.
It kind of makes sense given that the Rhineland was the location of ethnogenesis for Ashkenazis and that Yiddish is a weird offshoot of High German mixed with Hebrew.

I'd kind of like to read that book and see what I can learn. It seems interesting. I saved a few passages that I found on Twitter and will probably post them.
>In times past, they were less virulent a strain of kike, and some of the old authors and notable jews of history I could never see existing in today's age. They are all george carlin, itamir ben-gvir levels of spiteful hatred for humanity and someone like Spinoza would never happen again. I disavow Spinoza's worldview, just using him as the best example I can think of.
I don't know that much about Spinoza's views other than that he was a pantheist, but he really went out on a limb in his search for the truth with his Biblical criticism. He basically kicked off the whole field and was impartial enough to criticize what basically amounts to his own people's claim to divinely sanctioned importance.
>I think it is a deep spiritual sickness they have. For all they claim our Gods to be idols and demons, the jews and the story of their coming into Europe and really just their whole race's history is a very extreme and jarring story and you look at the history of these people, so many jewish harlots and whores, such raucuous merchants, such eagerness to sell flesh and poison.. they made a pact with demons many centuries ago and still live under that curse to this day. For all that they say blacks are under "the curse of Ham", the jews are the race on Earth that acts most like they are under a curse! And about them having to be dragged kicking and screaming into doing self-reflection, its very true. They see this life as a big game, and as long as they are winning they think "why should I change?" but the game they are playing is "destroy all ensouled human beings on the planet in service of demons, lol, lmao" and it speaks to how truly stupid they are that they carry their plans out so fervently as they do. Having group narcissism to the extreme degree they have it is demonic too, I think.
I do seriously wonder if there weren't malevolent nonhuman forces at work that corrupted their culture millennia ago. The whole thing took a wrong turn with the Mosaic distinction and the idea that the religion of the Jews was anything more than one people's particular framework for interpreting what people today would call the paranormal. Think of all the unnecessary bloodshed and oppression that one idea has been responsible for.

The world would have been so much better off if Canaanite polytheism had just been reformed instead of stamped out. The Greeks and Romans didn't need an Abrahamic religion to stigmatize human sacrifice, so why would the people of the Levant?

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>>178394
>They never will. Dark scary man give me gold. Gold give me power. Me likey power. Meanwhile the whole Earth turns into a barren wasteland of dust and bones and they say "we won, the jews win" :-) - the myth of jewish high intelligence is just that, a myth, because they are incredibly spiritually immature. And their holding onto rituals so much. Killing some poor, defenceless chicken doesn't atone for your sins. Saying an oath that you disavow all the past year's oaths and start fresh, DOES NOT, indeed, start you fresh. Some of the things they believe are truly retarded.
I think Ashkenazis are highly intelligent overall, but they're also cartoonishly arrogant, out of touch, and seemingly allergic to genuine introspection. I'm also not sure whether they're intelligent all across the board. How good are they at engineering, for example, compared to something like writing?
>Which leads me to think maybe the thing calling itself "God" is a dark entity wearing a mask and the true God of this world remains hidden and can just never be knowable. Which leads me to think, maybe we're prisoners here on a prison planet and there are higher realms we are meant for. Earth ruled over by Archons and we're really supposed to be Beings in 6-D reality or something higher. And also, I'd rather be a man of action and experience the richness and fullness of Life while I'm here instead of living in misery and going all-in on there being a 2nd life after. Some people have the faith to make that leap, and I can respect their force of will to make that decision, but I find it macabre and anti-life.
It makes me wonder if all the "good" and "evil" entities people claim to encounter aren't manifestations of the same force used to push us in a certain direction. That kind of ties in to Jacques Vallee's ideas about there being an otherworldly control system behind the UFO phenomenon and putting on different masks. Or how the Law of One people talk about polarization and how service to others vs. service to self are both valid paths (although the latter is said to be much harder to successfully pull off).

The way the Book of Job portrays Satan as working for Yahweh makes sense compared to later Christian theology, but the usual Abrahamic conception of an omniscient and omnipotent Yahweh still doesn't make any sense. What good is free will if your creations are stuck on rails following a course you've ultimately predetermined?
>For real. Its "I'm the parent and I make the rules" or the kid going "but why? why? but why?", "because I'm the dad, thats why!". And its circular logic because they are using the Bible, to prove the existence of the Bible.
It's like presuppositionalists and their kikeslave fallacy.
>You need to use some outside sources alongside your internal readings both to prove a thing. There are also parts in the NT where Jesus just comes across as downright mean and cruel, as well, its not all just the OT god being a tyrant. Calling the Samitarian woman a dog, for one. Theres more, you know what I mean.
Yeah, the "gentle Jesus" pop-culture portrayal of him completely falls flat when he condemns nonbelievers and is supposed to be dishing out eternal punishment to those who don't believe in him. Why would a being that's supposed to be both benevolent and omnipotent resort to that?

The criticism from liberals that right-wing Christians tend to be hypocrites and selective in their interpretation of the Bible is true, but they also didn't get the contempt for nonbelievers from nowhere.
>You can convince a guilty man of anything, he will say or do anything to absolve the guilt-feeling from him if it festers for long enough or is a severe enough transgression he thinks he did. Its phantom guilt, phantom pentenance, that they instill with the christinsanity. And the parallels between this and dudes like Boas, Marcuse, Columbia university cultural marxism is obvious. Keep them full of guilt and then offer them the solution (White extinction).
Yup. And once you've successfully installed the original sin guilt chip in a large percentage of the White population, it's not hard to pull it out and slip in the updated White privilege firmware update when the time comes around.
>How!? Ain't enough pilpul in the world to weasel your way around passages like "first to the Jew, then to the Gentile" or the entirety of Rom. 13 about submit to authority, pay your taxes, God elected those leaders! Pay up! I don't understand how people live with such cognitive dissonance, you straight up have to pick White Nationalism or Christianity after reading book of Romans, I feel like.
I completely agree. It makes no sense, but they don't seem to care. They don't want to lose their Jesus security blankie.

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>kike equivalent to nigger Rakeem rapping to me about "divine mathematic cyphers", and all that 5 percenter nonsense lol. The 7, that the Ankh cuz, we gunna come back as Pharoah and shieeeett. That divine numbah 8 playa! Word word black. The numbers 0-9 and all the colors combined, endlessly playing in the Egyptian shape store forever. Thats what the kabbalists and the spiritual jewish thought-leaders sound like to me, its the same shit.
Those nutty "Hebrew Roots" guys (or however they can be classified) do remind me of Afrocentric KEMET 777 TRUTH KNOWLEDGE SEEKER types at times.

Like on this site:
https://yahuahkingdom.com/
They even have a "YahTube" account listed on the top of the page.
>I know it, man. Its different names for the same Gods, they represent the same elements and concepts, its not meant to be turned into some big pedantic slapfight spergout. We all got thunder god, god of the forge, rain woman, etc. - AllFather wants us to go out and conquer, not bicker amongst ourselves over the name of AllFather.
Ancient Europeans could find plenty of common ground between their pantheons, yet millions of Whites today are stuck on counterproductive purity spiraling.
>You get it. Its about freeing people from the abrahamic yoke. Freeing people from the abrahamic yoke is a spiritually pure and positive thing to do no matter what, those people are in bondage to the black cube and damned to rebirth as a lower form/being. Giving them guidance so they don't spiral out into one of the many death cults in today's world, making sure they don't become expert-trusters or troons.
Robert Monroe and William Buhlman have talked about rigid religiosity leading the deceased toward "belief system territories" after they die that can inhibit their spiritual evolution.
>I'm not either, IDK what made me brought it up, something about the train of thought about pagans needlessly infighting. Fair Ireland, fairest Scotland, never conquered under the Roman yoke.
I was kind of the one who brought Rome up, since I was invoking it when I talked about imperial cults. As great as Rome was in certain ways, we could do better nowadays if the will were there.
>Its really a hidden blessing, keeps them open to hearing the Truth and leave church.
I have a few great uncles who were raised with Catholicism and barely seem religious. Other family members who were raised Catholic ended up becoming fervent evangelicals. Even though I have much more contempt for the Catholic Church, the fact that so many White Catholics (and White former Catholics) don't seem to is a blessing in disguise. Tardcath LARPers won't acknowledge this as one of the few good things about Catholicism.
>Its a cancer upon America and a deep-rooted cancer that must be dealt with. And no matter how many times they branch out and splay out into 7589437598 different denominations, they always turn into zionist swine, foul, always evangelize and wrap themselves in the pissraeli flag, funny how that is!! Mudshark levels of traitor-ness, and genuinely the looniest people on planet Earth to believe that 3rd temple, rapture, etc. they believe in.
I'm glad that only Turd Worlders seem to be joining their ranks in large numbers these days. They still have way more influence than the world needs. Anything more than zero influence is too much.

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>>178397
>Its mudshark levels of embarrasing and self-abusive the way they carry on about "the chosen land" and "god's people; the jews". I've always thought that as the boomers die out, this strain of thought will go with them. I sure hope so, because these people want to destroy the world for their goddamned 3rd temple and the 2nd coming that's never happening, and no sane person ever would want to happen!! Whacked out prots and insane talmudic rabbis, working hand-in-glove to kill us all!
I can say from experience that there are going to be a few holdouts. But I think with the way things are changing, traditional religiosity might be almost dead in the next century. Even Christianity is used by many of the loud-and-proud religious right-wingers as a political fetish object more than something they sincerely believe. In the past, religion would inform political affiliation. With those people, it's the other way around. The Christian LARP is such a stupid thing to take part in when its value system is completely at odds with their stated political preferences. You can't say you're racially conscious, anti-globalist, and countersemitic when you partake in a race-blind religion revolving around a "divine" rabbi who is supposed to come back and usher in an age of Jewish world rule from Jerusalem.
>Globally, yes. For America specifically, I think the 3rd temple type people are more damaging. Even then, a lot of that is contained in the south/midwest. There's a specific term for their beliefs, I just can't be bothered to dignify them with a proper label. They don't deserve.
The problem is the level of political clout they have, especially with regard to our foreign policy.
>I think so much more than we realize of christinsanity's spread in the West was due to social reasons and people just going along to get along, not wanting to rock the boat and just converting to keep the peace but privately not believing. And people wanting their kids to have friends to play with, so letting them go to church but then not preaching to them in private or talking about church or anything.
Christianity was the original COVID "vaccine." You either had to get it or face the social consequences. Christian apologists act like converts decided to dispassionately adopt the religion based on rational argumentation, but there was a carrot-and-stick approach used to convert nonbelievers that included the use of persecution up to and including execution.
>The French produce so many great authors, and so much good literature. I think they had intellectual debates over agnosticism, atheism, and wanted to have a group discussion about it whereas the English would just not believe, not tell anyone, and go about their lives.
Between those two options, I prefer the French route of laying everything out on the table.

It's too bad the French have fallen so far. I've never been into their culture, but they were a really high-achieving people. I think Human Accomplishment even ranks them above the Germans and right below the highest achievers, the British, as far as European accomplishment from 1400-1950 is concerned.

Nowadays it seems like the French have very little cultural cachet at all compared to what they used to.
>It was definitely more hidden back then. Some salt of the earth working type that just doesn't believe and doesn't feel the need to discuss religious stuff I could get along with much better than those christians who say "everyone should be CULTURALLY christian, they should at least profess belief and go to church weekly, America is a christian nation!", those people are out of pocket and fundamentally misunderstand what America is about. The Founding Fathers didn't want some theocracy, people should explore and be curious, and learn about the world around them. For all that modernity claims tolerance, equality, it was the olden times that people actually were more open-minded and tolerant of each other.
I admire the hostility toward the clergy and ecclesiastical corruption that the deists of that time had. I always think of this section of Ezekiel Polk's epitaph:
<First fruits and tithes are odious things And so are Bishops, Priests and Kings
>I'm glad you got off the plantation too. People can spend their whole lifes inside the grips of church and bible. Its really demented, really anti-life and anti-human if you think about it.
It's sad how many people spend their entire lives wrapped up in all that.
>My hair grows insanely straight, I oughta try slicking it back some time just for the lolz. A few geniunely are hardmen but its all hollywood B.S. end of the day. There are hardmen in every race.
I actually used to do that as a kid with hair gel trying to pull off an old-school look. The closest thing I did as an adult was use pomade when I had a Hitler Youth haircut, but I'd always part it. I like the straight-back look but don't know if I'd feel comfortable doing it. It's like a reverse comb-over.
>Sunk-cost fallacy going back thousands of years because they can't admit it was actually a demon they signed a pact with and they are under a curse and not "chosen". Imagine!
The fact that they conferred the "chosen" title upon themselves is something they don't want to acknowledge given the ridiculous amount of power it's given them.
>They lie as easily as they breathe. And with them big hawk noses, oh how they breathe! Oh the lies!
Air is free.
>I'll give their newer stuff another listen
It's easily my favorite period of the band. I think the production on Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing is pretty much perfect for the sound they were going for.
>This is the worst part of populism and can get so bad at times, that whatever gains you get from it as a system aren't even worth it. It served its role in raising mass human awareness and racial consciousness, but I think the lines in the sand are drawn, and as many Whites on Earth are gonna be ethno-centric as we can possibly get by now.
It's definitely true that there are only so many people who are willing to accept what's going on.

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>>178464
>Are you into The Lemon Fog or Sunlight? I just discovered the latter band.
Lemon Fog is good. I've never heard of Sunlight either. You don't mean that band Creation of Sunlight, by chance? I like 13th Floor Elevators, YaHoWa 13, Syd Barrett's solo albums, Cromagnon "Orgasm", Les Rallizes Denudes, Red Krayola. For modern stuff I love Acid Mothers Temple, Pelt. Recently discovered Lamp of the Universe, like them. I like the band Os Mutantes and a lot of that Brazilian tropicalia/M.P.B. music. Its so sunny and cheerful, and a lot of it is psychedelic too but a lite and sunny version.
>sunshine pop
I get the kind of bands you mean now after you broke it down for me. I really like a lot of old Brazilian music that was their version of sunshine pop. Gal Costa and Wanderlea are good. I will have to explore some American bands in that style. Do you like T-Rex early albums? They were psychedelic folk and I like those early albums of theirs. I love Jethro Tull too.
>I think it's nuts that Win weren't bigger
Scotland is a highly influential cultural place but very under the radar. But hush hush, I like being under the radar! Thats the only way you can create true kino, is away from prying eyes
>do these people think things were just peachy keen before their personal bugbear entered the White House?
>Marco Rubio short-circuiting, throw out red meat for Republicans with low standards
In many cases, yes, people are just that myopic and dumb lol. America used to be smart, cultured, and achieved so many great things and now look at the state of things. Whites have been niggerified to a sick degree. I remember that Rubio debate too. People don't wanna hear about ideas and policies they just wanna be knuckle-draggers, you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink.
>I think the production on …And Justice For All really brings down the album for me
Yes, its too clean and sterile.
>not even just the lack of bass
Gotta have me some funky bass lines, simple as
>Yeah, he was the one leading the charge. I have to say that I don't like the guy. He seems like a prick.
Its been proven for decades now that piracy drives merch sales up like thosands of a percent. 5000% higher merch sales. They aren't really losing anything in the long run. The writing is on the wall for the free and open exchange of information, and we should all hoard digital goods and archive everything of note on the political front now while you still can. Digital pandemic & collapse of food chain, fertiziler and oil famine is now up on the kike checklist. And about him being a prick, he does come off as one yes.
>passive-aggressive dickhead
I can't stand passive aggressive people, its so soy and reddit and gay. I remember the scene in the movie where he played that drumbeat and the controversy around it, I agree with your assessment. People can be so harsh and cruel and get carried away in group-think and not just chill out and let a nigga live, damn! Nothing wrong with trying new things out and being versatile, variety the spice of life and all that. But this makes me think, there are too many in our world who howl and bitch too much at people being a bit boisterous. If someone has mastered a craft, and is a bit arrogant but still eager to teach newbies and spread their art to other people then hey, let them be a bit flamboyant. People bitch too much and bristle too much at that type of thing, well I find it unnatural to be so uptight and always humble constantly. Its unhealthy to be like a puritan like that.
>I think he's overly abrasive and unsympathetic and past his prime, but it's like people are just looking for extra reasons to dump all over him
There's so much dumb herd mentality in America and so much henpecked, feminized nonsense, that honestly I can relate to people like Ulrich a bit. Who wouldn't become a little prickly after hearing herds of cattle bleating and screaming at you constantly over the dumbest little things over and over. If someone is some abrasive, Reddit, Dunning-Kruger asshole going around playing hall monitor, then hell yes mock mock away. But let Lars experiment, let a nigga live. Makes me think of that football coach everyone is freaking out over, some people just find fault in everyone else and never contribute and can't put themselves in another's shoes to understand why their cattle-herd actions make someone turn abrasive like that. Its crabs in a bucket mentality and I think its healthier to emulate people that are masters of their craft rather than stew in resentment with the redditors and never even try.

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>>178465
>normgroids will often latch onto the most inane lyrics as if they're something of value. They'll hear "baby baby baby oh yeah na na na tonight" in some flavor-of-the-month Top 40 turd and act like it's a deep insight about the human condition.
Or those people that claim to listen to "everything" but only listen to 80's hits and current day top 40 goyslop. This is why I never listen to anyone trying to proffer themselves as some type of guru or offer advice, they don't know shit and their head is full of Bud Light Lime and Taylor Swift tour as their life-defining struggle and hardship. Its always the real ones that stay silent.
>Bob Dylan cultists make me roll my eyes too
I know it, fuck that pinko. Buncha "world-citizens", more like "easy targets".
>the idea of going full Wayne Hussey and writing lyrics you just think sound cool
Yeah and you troll the fans those people asking but what does it MEAN maaaaan and they just get left trolled and asshurt while you Chadmaxx and sing whatever random nonsenical things come to your head, lol.
>Speaking of lyrics, at least S.O.D.'s are funny. That's of more value than what's on offer from your average lyricist in popular music.
I know it. Everyone has a stick up their ass, take things too seriously. And the humor is all irony-poisoned kiddy shit. People are being infantilized and niggerfied simultaneously, we've got new exotic strains of goyim the Talmud never even addressed, cuz they never saw it coming! Total 24/7 chemical attack on the food and water, the air and earth. Libs say the most inane crap, think its a "mic-drop moment", look pleadingly at you with prey eyes for approval!
>Ultra Lord?
Yeah I think that was it lol
>I wonder what Ultra Shitlord would look like.
He's literally me, bros
>Was "smuggies" ever an official name?
I mean yeah. The fans saw the OG memes, then renamed it amongst themselves because they thought it too clunky, and it took off, and people called them either/or. I don't know how official a thing like a meme or meme history can get, lul.
>It was bad enough when Redditards were trying to suck all the charm out of MS Paint OC with their gay vectorized images
Things are so gay online now even Reddit isn't as gay and lame as some of the places out there (KF)
>but now we don't even have much Paint OC period.
Porn artists still churn out OC but thats about it. Grim! I think maybe people just don't have the time anymore, everyone's working insane hours at wageslavery as the yids squeeze every last drop of the American calf they can before chopping it up and moving to Buenos Aries.
>Sedaboh lo-fi indie rock bands I'm not really familiar with that whole scene.
If it wasn't for the internet, I bet there'd be hardly anyone on Earth who knew any of those bands, you know? Some of those old indie bands were hidden gems but you can just hit the highlights and skip lots of it.
>Bee Thousand That's the one I heard. Maybe I should listen to it again.
Listen to Alien Lanes as well. Many prefer Lanes to Thousand, but they are consensus #1 and #2
>Daniel Johnston has developed a following out of proportion with his actual level of talent
and Nirvana
>part of the charm is the crude tape recording of the old stuff.
Do you know Joe Meek & the Blue Men "I Hear A New World"? Thats a good fun album. And for crude tape recording, what about John Frusciante's weird solo albums when he was strung out on crack? Those albums were dark, he's high on crack and wearing girl clothing and mumbling into some cheap mic, its tough out there.
>Imperial Triumphant
You may like them, IDK. They are avantgarde black metal and some of their stuff sounds like free jazz almost. Talented band, I like.

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>>178466
>Washed Out
>I think I might have heard Within and Without and given up on him when that came out.
You mean you didn't like that album, or that you just stopped following him after that released?
>Toro Y Moi
>Definitely the name, but I think I only listened to an album one time.
Encourage you to re-visit him sometime, he was deserving of the praise and a solid artist on the whole, not just as a chillwave band, but just a good songwriter and musician. And then Washed Out was good too, and I remember Small Black's "New Chain" was one of my personal favs, and that Real Estate album I mentioned earlier. Do you know the band Lower Dens? Look up "Nootropics" and "Twin Hand Movement". And the band No Joy. Two good indie bands from around that time
>I started with Neon Indian and then ended up hearing Memory Cassette/Memory Tapes, Small Black, Teen Daze, and Millionyoung, besides Washed Out.
I remember all those bands, was real into all those chillwave bands when they were big. Small Black and Neon Indian are my favs off that list.
>Even though there was definitely some indie-culture faggotry at play with the whole "chillwave" thing, especially the effeminate hipster vocals (Memory Tapes really comes to mind), I like that kind of music.
I find it easy to ignore the indie-culture faggotry with chillwave because some of those have a timeless quality, its relaxing to listen to, and a lot of the songs are well-written and good lyrics. Some of Toro Y Moi's songs will stand the test of time. It was a breath of fresh air, chillwave.
>I even prefer the more personal focus it felt like it had compared to the later 2010s memewave music
Compared to like fashwave? I could never get into fashwave, myself. I agree that chillwave was more personal. I think there are a few chillwave songs that will stand the test of time and be listened to in 2046 like how people would listen to Boz Scaggs "Lowdown" in present day. Thats the first song I always think of when I need a song to illustrate something having timeless quality to it, haha.
>I like the way the latter would take heavier inspiration from vintage media (in the sense that some of it would try to hew more to the spirit of '80s music
It referenced the past without being quirk chungus soyboy about it and it took influence from all those 80's bands we like and been talking about, really cool time in music.
>it often felt overly referential to pop culture in a way that lacked subtlety
Well, I can overlook that easily in this specific case but I get your point. Everything nowadays is highly referential because of the normalfags consuming "geek" as their own thing, from when Facebook first got big and the schools started pushing STEM and all that. The pendelum is swinging on this issue, I feel. Tech and our hobbies will return to us, it's going to be cool to be anti-intellectual.
>I don't think I've even heard Real Estate 'Days'
Very happy and sunshiney, heartfelt album. You'll love it
>Not proper dark ambient. I like ambient that's dark, like Ambient 4 by Brian Eno, but I'm not into the more noisy stuff.
Do you like Muslimgauze? Nordvargr? Check out Stairway "Medicine Dance", its tribal indian music but its a nice relaxing album. Ambient is a great genre, I put it on at night a lot to unwind but its just great anytime. I put on Eno and Steve Roach, Stars of the Lid, and more gentle sounding stuff on occasion but I like stuff like Lustmord, Nordvargr, etc more. There are great /mu/ charts for dark ambient and horror/scary music and for WTF experimental bands and I've devoured those types of bands voraciously. I've always had a mind for the macabre
>tribal ambient Steve Roach has dabbled in it
I like his tribal albums, check out that Stairway album above its tribal and good. Muslimgauze is the peak of the genre, his stuff rules. And I mean to mention earlier, Randy Prozac "Themes for the New World System" is good. Probably more drone than ambient but good album still. Do you like drone and drone doom? The band Earth? I love Earth's "Bees made Honey…" and the vocalist from Khanate has a scary voice and should do horror flicks or something lol. Neither here nor there but yeah
>I downloaded this after looking it up and hearing excerpts of what sounds like the soundtrack to a '90s historical strategy game. That piqued my interest.
It would be perfect as a stragety game's OST!!!
>I only know his Far Side Virtual style. As silly as that album is, I unironically like "Dubai Dream Tone."
I love Far Side Virtual. Do you know PrismCorp Virtual Entreprises "Home"? Its a lot similar to the FSV sound. I unironically like "Dubai Dream Tone" too, that album is a wonderful pastiche that perfectly captures the vibe he was going for. But even more than FSV, I like his album "NYC, Hell, 3:00 AM" better. Sparse, minimal, difficult. Avant-garde R&B. That album spawned a ton of imitators after it as well, that trend called "deconstructed club" that all the big electronic bands were doing for a time. Ferraro rules. Do you like Spencer Clark? I have a ton of both guys albums. I love all Ferraro's "Jarvid 9" albums, the 3 really exotic gamelan-influenced ones. And I like Bodyguard "Silica Gel" and his work under "K2" alias. The album "Dreams" under just his name James Ferraro is good, its ambient and relaxing.
>Indonesian music
>Like gamelan?
Yeah, I mess with gamelan. I'm still kinda new to it but I like it, scratches my itch, reminds me of those tribal bands I like and I like the drumming and complex rhythms and melodies. Hard to find and rare albums, some of them. I found this mix on youtube the other day and thought it was cool. Its not gamelan, but old funk/soul/R&B/psychedelic from 60's and 70's Indonesia.
https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=3oofyLCxOVg
>Malaysia Big Band youtube link
Now that IS an obscure album! I listened to it while writing this and it sounds cool. I've got a few random India songs. Do you know Ananda Shankar - SelfTitled 1970 debut album? Its sitar covers of classic rock songs! You remember M.I.A., lul? Chick was ultra-leftist but some of her stuff was kinda funky.
>weird world music
Do you know Ethiopian jazz-funk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvveK4s3eOY
Some of the songs are funky and I like. I've got 3 or 4 of these

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>>178466
>>178467
>>178466
>>178467
>I don't like records that feel like they're filled with pretty much nothing but minute-long blast-beat cannonades where you can't hear the riffs
Yeah you can't hear nothing but the blast beats and mumbled screaming, its audio diarrhea. But bands that blend grind with other styles can be good
>feel tinny
I've had computers with bad audio before that made everything sound tinny and weakly high-pitched, nothing sounds good tinny like that, it gives you a headache the frequency that "tinny" is on.
>I don't have a proper vocabulary to accurately describe it, but it feels more warm and organic to me.
I get what you are describing. Reek of Putrefaction sounds more organic and human because there are breaks between some songs and variation in sounds. Straight grind bands have more in common with wall noise or white noise at times.
>That feels appropriate given the disgusting subject
The pics in that album foldout are brutal. Big wall of medical gore, yum yum yum! I used to love doing gross out humor with my brothers as a kid and sharing shock sites with friends in school for a laugh, it gave me an iron stomach but yeah those pics are nasty. The worst are those pornogrind bands, I straight up can't listen to that shit. I wouldn't call myself a dainty English rose or anything, but yeah, I don't go hunting for those sites and pics anymore lmao
>Black metal blast beats I usually don't have the same problem with. I really like them when done right. I don't know if it's a mixing thing or a difference in technique, but I think of old-school black metal blast beats as having a less cymbal-heavy sound.
I couldn't tell you the difference either tbh
>I'm not a fan of modern metal drumming at all though.
I like the drummer from Altar of Plagues. Can't think of many off top of my head that really stand out
>Repulsion and Atheist are my favorites
I'd pick Atheist because I like the jazzy tech-death fusion style and bands like that but Repulsion "Horrified" is a truly all-time great album. You say that's your favorite grindcore album, I think my favorite would be Brutal Truth "Extreme Conditions Demand Extreme Responses".
>I actually listened to Focus again recently and liked "I'm But a Wave to…," although the rest of the album didn't stick out to me. I do like the clean guitar work, and I'll probably come back to the album again.
It took a few listens to click for me but "Focus" really does deserve the praise it gets
>You're right in that I would call them more grindcore than death metal, but also I frequently see them both labeled death metal. Both bands were also inspired by thrash metal. They're kind of a mixture of sound
Another one you'll see labeled all 3 grind/death/thrash is Pestilence "Consvming Impvlse". Love that album, one of my personal all-time favs.
>I recently even saw someone saying that they consider Bathory to be proto-black metal and not actually black metal
Clown shit. If Bathory ain't black metal, I don't know what is! Lul
>becoming more common for non-Black Sabbath bands from the '70s that would have been labeled as heavy metal acts back then to be retroactively demoted to "just hard rock," as if "heavy metal" wasn't almost completely synonymous with "hard rock" (often in a derogatory way) as soon as it entered popular usage
Some people even to this day will call any heavier than pop music all heavy metal in their sneering, derisive tone, buncha cunts the lot. Niggerlovers. All these people that are nitpicking genre labels and trying to re-write histroy, this all reeks of insincere, inauthentic people, it reeks of Gen Z. They don't know who they are, they can't just be themselves. Jus do ya thang nigga lol. People don't wanna be their own man and stand on business and take clear, defined stances. Call a band metal, call it rock, but don't re-write history and try to "modernize" things, thats so jewish and gay
>I think it was the rise of extreme metal that changed things
Well it all goes back to, when and where do you think metal as a term came into existence? Think it was the late 70's or early 80's, one of those hair bands came out and people started using metal as a term. Before the 80's I guess people just said hard rock vs rock to describe it all, but I think a lot of the 70s and earlier bands were just as heavy as some of the stuff that came after and are deserving of being called metal. Calling everything rock/hard rock SOUNDS like it'd easier, but its not, think it'd muddle things up too much
>I also see people trying to draw an even starker line between metal and rock and denying that metal is a form of rock at all
Yeah this kind of thing is just out in the weeds to me. Pay a lil' homage to the bands from the past, whats so bad about that!?! People love to be divisive, we should be brothers in rock 'n roll and have camarderie instead. There's enough strife in life as it is without infecting shared cultural spaces with the shit.
>to try and cut off extreme metal from its roots is just silly, pretentious, and at odds with the actual history
Exactly. 100%. Silly especially. This is some manufactured drama, jewish bullshit. This is like Mr. Bungle and RHCP's "feud" type shit
>There are clear lines of influence going from extreme metal all the way back to the rock music of the '60s and '70s and even '50s
>It's just ignorantly denying the musical taxonomy
Well you know how their are people who say we need to cut ties with the past and be hyper-modern and forward-thinking, throw Hitler away we need to do a radical new approach! Its like that but for music, I think musicians particularly are just antsy and want to invent new genres and styles of playing because the well has seemingly run dry but you see this type of thing in all other forms of media too. People are just antsy for change in general but a lot of it is informed out of ignorance. "All that is truly new, is the very well-forgotten old".

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>>178467
>>178470
>Nowadays you even see people trying to claim "heavy metal" and "metal" are two different things
I've seen this too but mostly just dudes trying to cordon off all the 80s hair bands as "heavy metal" because they dont like those bands
>how faggy certain metal fans they've gotten.
Its the constant chemtrails spraying and the poisons in our food and water, and the pharma poison americans are all killing themselves with all coming together to invert the sexes. Women with SSRI fridge bodies cussin' like men, acting like dykes. Men shavin' the bussy. Whats that saying on the Eli Levi pic of Baphomet, "coagulate and synthesize"? Jewish chemistry to sterilize goyim. Its tough out here for real
>That kind of handmade album art is so charming like Bolt Thrower in battle there is no law
Thats a good cover too. How about Impaled Northern Moonforest's self titled? Lul
>Slowdive, who have never done much of anything for me. It might be trite to say, but I think My Blood Valentine would be my favorite just because of Loveless.
From Slowdive I like the album "Souvlaki" but its like a 7.5/10 for me, maybe an 8. The rest of their stuff sucks. Talking about them reminded me of a few girl vocalist bands that were indie rock that I liked and wanted to share but I had a brainfart and forgot. MBV "Loveless", Pale Saints "In Ribbons", Galaxie 500 "On Fire" my top 3 but I think "On Fire" is my personal #1 best shoegaze album. That album is choice. You know Catherine Wheel? They remind me of Slowdive, their album "Ferment" is like 7.5/10 but the rets sucks.
>Cocteau Twins, who wouldn't be considered shoegaze nowadays when shoegaze and dream pop are considered two different genres, but whatever
>think they're more consistently enjoyable than My Bloody Valentine, even I don't see any album of their as being on par with Loveless
In my head and in my hard drive I've got them as pop but tomato, tomatoe. They are a consistent band without drastic highs or lows like some of these other bands in the style. I would put them up there as one the best, yes. Them in top 3 and maybe drop Pale Saints down alongside Ride "Nowhere" at #5 maybe? Galaxie 500 "Today" and Pale Saints other stuff in contention at #5.
>Pale Saints might be up there too, but since I only listened to them recently I feel like I need to get a bit more familiar with them before saying something like that without any reservations.
They will click for you on repeated listens, I bet haha. Great band
>Was that Curt Doolittle from the Propertarian Institute you're thinking of?
Yes, that was who I'm thinking of! He wasn't Patriot Front, there were so many glowops running back then, hard to remember all the groups and names because there was a wave of influencers that popped up out of nowhere. He pissed himself after seeing the mob of niggers protesting, said blacks were more well-endowed heh… heh… and sheepishly handed the loudspeaker to a black and offered up his guns to him!!! What a fucking cuck weirdo I remember lmao'ing at him hard when that happened. God, imagine being one of his die-hard followers and seeing that shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdsu72MaMIo
^ this is a youtube link somebody saved of the event. Based anon delivers ^

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>>178470
>Maybe someone from Patriot Front had something like that happen
They didn't I was just misremembering and had wires crossed 'cuz of how turbulent a time it was and how many different people came outta the woodwork during DIVOC.
>I like Patriot Front overall
There's nothing wrong with them, I feel like its all ultimately futile and the answer lies more towards what James Mason says but I'll just leave it at that.
>I think it's necessary for people to start families and everything, but it's not something I've ever felt cut out for or had the drive to do.
Maybe if White women didn't get turned into these wretched kike chimeras by the pharma poison, birth control, and the holy screens then maybe we would be cut out for it but as things stand its foul and the jewish media matrix has done a number on them. Not all of them are far gone like that, thankfully.
>I think metapolitics and real-life organizing and advocacy are more important than just having kids.
Agree because there will come famine and other depopulation fuckery down the pipeline. Men with too much attachments to the system, too many obligations, too well-fed, they will not mount resistance when push comes to shove. Family men will turn into Cuck Inc. Repubs and the world will keep spinning. They will get the vaxpass, eat the bugs, et al. We need hard men that have been thru the ringer and are ready to do what needs must be done. Then after we win, we can figure out the numbers game and rebuild.
>Pew Typology quiz
I don't think I've taken that one. Link to the site? Maybe I have. I like that NeoValues one the best, find it the most accurate, even more than the political quadrants one.
>took the NeoValues quiz, which doesn't have an exact match, but it says the closest thing to my views is "Conservative Social Democracy."
My most recent one was "Faith, Fatherland, Revolution" and I consistently get Revolution on that test with big 75, 80 percent-plus splits towards conservative positions. On the quadrants one I consistently land in the PaleoConservative section on the right of the compass at minimum, sometimes higher up in the top right corner but very consistently around PaleoCon sector. Way I see it, anyone not at least at Pat Buchanan's level of understanding at this stage in the game is NGMI.
>What I'd like to see is countless different types of communities, ranging from hardline traditionalists to ones that are more culturally bohemian but exclusionary toward anti-Whites and people with non-White kids
For sure we need more bohemian ones because I feel like the jews herded people towards twitter, christianity, and cuckservatism big-time ever since 2016 and also especially during divoc and ever since then as well. And ramping up fringe rabbitholes that lead nowhere, disinformation, "its da masonic shapeshifting flat earth annunaki, not da joos goy!!" type activities. Unit 8200 really going to town on people. netanyahu's meeting with 'influencers' last year. It only hurts us in the long run to become so militant about stupid things like church, getting hung up too much on theorizing, all these secondary things. Its all about race, race, race. Hyper-racial. The jews want us to tamper down our flame and be concillatory and hem and haw so they can lick their wounds and stab us hard when it flips back to the Dems and they do their digital pandemic and 15 minute cities.
>I think if you have real freedom of association
Even beyond race I think that the kikes fear freedom of association more than anything else because it gets people to think for themselves and not outsource themselves away to 'experts' and whatever the scrying mirrors tell them that day to think, feel, believe, and truly on a deeper level to BE. People are being wiped away into barcode humans, true nothingness, truly empty vessels and this serves jewish power more than anything else they do, having people become subservient to their demonic egregores and become flesh golems. People thinking for themselves and having free exchange of ideas, the Truth always comes out and the Truth always will lead righteous men against evil and the jews are pure evil incarnate.
>plenty of people interested even among normgroids
Having groups of White people living together, helping each other, no tricks or games, no crime. The no crime would be a big selling point. Even the normalfaggots have nigger fatigue at this point
>That would especially be the case if they're relaxed on a cultural level
I remember a guy on pol posting an excepert from this old book that always stuck with me, it was about how in Switzerland in like the 1500's or the 1600's they would just all sit in church all day singing hymns and send men around to round up bachelors and drag them to church. Those people never truly even lived, just wasted entire lives in pews and went around hunting for vital young men to corrupt and ruin with their masochistic sickness. We should not be like the Swiss. That stuff is all so fake. I don't wanna be a fake person, and my version of the Right would never be like how the Swiss singing hymns all day was like. The jews and all enemies of our people are the only ones who stand to gain from us crippling our vivacity of Spirit like that, clipping our wings to be subservient… to what? Abstractions? Jew on a stick? Some kids you made? This is a deep spiritual battle between good and evil, this is mankind's fate against our eternal enemy, the jew. This is a deep spiritual war we are in and the stakes couldn't be more higher. People gotta quit being idealistic and start looking at practical on the ground reality and ways to disrupt the system and strike a blow against it. The jew would kill all the useful idiot nons too, they are just anti-human and anti-life demons in human skinsuits plain and simple.
>Another thing I think is crucial is to destroy "proposition nation" mythology and the idea that nons can be American (or European, Australian, or whatever else the nation in question may be
Yes. Fuck "magic dirt". Its all about race, and it always has been. People say, oh you're "woke right", you sound like a sheboon, we wuz kangz-ing. Okay, and? Its all about race. People get in line on this, or they will die, they will live as a victim their whole lifes. Today's world wants Whites to glorify victimhood and see their own death as a saintly martyr death, its perverted and sick. All you got in this life is your folk.

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>>178470
>>178471
>While nations in some sense are artificial constructs
Countries are artifice, nation for me is a race of people and the shared land they've historically always inhabited. Blood and soil and families that've put down roots for centuries versus waving a flag and drawing fake lines on a map and making fake ties of kinship that aren't based on reality. What we have today are jewish economic zones aka countries.
>there is still an essential biological component involved as well that was a recognized part of the package long before the age of nation states began
The blood in blood and soil but see, how can the jews get the goys to be compliant unless they draw fake lines on the map and herd together people that have no natural bonds with each other? People will naturally self-segregate and cluster together with those most like themselves. Waving a certain flag doesn't unify anyone, the nation is an in-borne thing. You see your folk, your kin, you just know on a instinctual level and no amount of legalizing and economizing can ever replicate it.
>I don't see much of a problem with considering a half-Irish and half-English person to be English given the close genetic proximity of the Irish, for example, but it becomes completely ridiculous when you're talking about someone with significant non-European ancestry
Its the same as the mental gymnastics trannies want to enforce on people. Look at that Nigerian sprinter that represented Ireland at the Olympics that was a controversy, you got a black woman named like Igbo Uzeleye wearing the Irish tricolor and it says "IRE" across her uniform but you can't tell the whole world to deny their lying eyes! People are being conditioned and programmed into trusting whatever the screen spews and whatever big daddy expert jew tells them to believe over their very own fucking SENSORY. ORGANS. What is one to do? Something this messed up could truly only work on an empty vessel and not an ensouled human. I think the egregiousness of the kikery here will collapse in on itself with time
>Conservatives love gloating about how those dumb leftists can't define a woman, but conservatives also can't tell you what an American is. Maybe your friend Paco or Tyrone genuinely appreciates American culture
The kikes intentionally destory history and all remnants of the host culture to hoist their bioweapons as the dominant culture. Melting down those Confederate statues and the Maoist attack on history, the Truth, and on reality itself. American culture is centered around niggers copypasta is true. Without Whites, they'd hoist up eskimos and say look tyrone, look at the model minority. REAL America was forged in the icy igloos of Yukon! Rinse and repeat, this is their tactic. Like an anglerfish's lightbulb dangling in front of it for Whites to chase after and emulate. Menko'ing to death. Conservatives are so desparate for a culture war W, they will get so animated and worked up defending the simulcra that's set up for them, and then once the performative outrage is over, the left puts away simulcra and simulation both and spins up a new fairytale with new play-actors for the Right to froth over, leading us further and further to extinction thru artifice and the entertainment matrix.
>This civic pseudo-nationalism nonsense is infuriating and needs to be flushed down the toilet of history.
100%
>I sure hope RTTL wins their legal battles.
Its the case of the century. "Those that make peaceful change impossible, make violent revolution inevitable"
>form-fitting shirts
Hard to find anything in Medium or even just standard Large nowadays. Everyone has gotten so big
>shopping for clothing has gotten more difficult
Have you tried thrift stores? All my clothes are from thrift stores. I buy the occasional band merch online though. Its so hard to deal with doing returns for online shopping and there is a lot of nefarious scams and misleading item information. Little things add up and cause exhaustion, exhausted people give up and accept low standards, and the jew cackles with glee at its increasing 'profit-line'
>That's depressing if they're catering to rap retards now.
I was last at my city's mall.. IDK, 7 or 8 years ago? And I looked into H.T. passing by and saw both Biggie and Pac's faces, and a Kanye shirt too. Just laughed sardonically. Whats a Hwhite man to do!?
>Tom Delonge has one of the most insufferable voices I've ever heard
Preach nigga. Blink 182 sucks.
>I don't remember that specifically, but it makes sense if people aren't used to driving in those conditions every year and the infrastructure isn't in place to handle it.
Yeah it makes sense but even still it was a comedy of errors and there were some funny videos that came outta it of easily avoidable wrecks and hilarity ensuing
>I try to call out their selfishness as a generation without going overboard with it
Going overboard anti-woman, anti-boomer, anti-trans, etc. is all divide and conquer tactics. The boomers were just massively lead-poisoned is what explains a lot of it.
>I agree that there's only so far you can "redpill" people. It doesn't scale infinitely. At some point you just wind up with diminishing returns.
I think people need to let loose with some /x/ and explore spiritual topics some as well because theres parts of the struggle that just don't have human answers to them like the depth of heeb evil and depravity, why NPC's are like they are (the Agent Smith effect), and other topics. The jewish fixation on money, is a demonic pact they made with boss demon of greed. There are things like that that should be explored without going too off the deep end about them. Because if you just overdose someone with constant redpill and not a little greenpill, fringe stuff too, they will eventually burn out.
>A fair, levelheaded Jew would get that it's only fair play to support the rights of gentile nations to follow their own racial interests if gentiles have been so willing to stick up for their rights to do likewise
Right, they are like an ungrateful brat kid throwing a temper tantrum out of greed for shiny toy their sister has or something like that. Or like when you do a small kindness towards someone and they react incredibly icy towards you and don't acknowledge you at all. Not even just as Whites, but as human beings its abhorrent behavior and just not how people should be treated. They are consumed by greed and envy.
>the rhetoric of many Israelis seems bloodthirsty in the way they seem to take pleasure in their suffering and get off on inflicting pain on them
Race of psychopaths and sadists through and through.
>Now if only we could get rid of all the controlled-opposition stooges trying to blame "fake Jews" and defend the Bible that made Jews the way they are…
I've seen that guy on /dup/ too. Can't believe people are still going on about Khazar theory and the 12 tribes of bible times in le heckin' current year and ain't put it together yet lol. A group delusion is a powerful thing and especially if they are brought up in the church it can be nigh impossible to break the bonds but its abusive manipulation by jews its pure abuse.

Anonymous 09/10/26(Thu)12:12:29 No.178497

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>>178471
>>178474
>>178476
>It kind of makes sense given that the Rhineland was the location of ethnogenesis for Ashkenazis
Frankfurt was a big house of banking, masonry, (((commerce))) from ye olde times up there with Amsterdam, London, Venice that people forget about.
>I don't know that much about Spinoza's views other than that he was a pantheist
I like pantheism as a concept and see some sense in it. A lot of his views were about like philanthropy and secular humanism but its been awhile since I read his book.
>I do seriously wonder if there weren't malevolent nonhuman forces at work that corrupted their culture millennia ago
I'm fully convinced of it at this point and see them as non-human demonic entities
>Think of all the unnecessary bloodshed and oppression that one idea has been responsible for.
Sends a shiver down the spine to think about. The jews religion and worldview has caused damn near all the problems in the world. Zealous christians destroying fair Europe, cutting the noses off our statues, destroying themselves. Sandnigger durka druka bullshit. You get rid of just 3 fanatical ideas, you go a long way towards actually achieving world peace cutting this one Gordian knot
>The world would have been so much better off if Canaanite polytheism had just been reformed instead of stamped out. The Greeks and Romans didn't need an Abrahamic religion to stigmatize human sacrifice, so why would the people of the Levant?
I find it jarring the fixation on 1 and Oneness and the number 1. Nobody ever thought about numbers so much and fixating on Oneness until the Bible, until Akhenaton in Egypt who was crypto-jewish. Yahweh was originally just a storm god
>They even have a "YahTube" account listed on the top of the page.
>whacky jews really do remind me of black israelite insanity
Thanks for the link, good stuff. There are christians that fixate on the proper name of jesus too and insist on always calling him his convoluted long rabbinical name at all times. People get so nutty over names, numbers, being prim and proper its so weird. Impenetrable cypher divine! Ayo hol up you be saying… 5 fingahz on mah hand, I got 5 toes… unlocking my GODHOOD, nigga, 5 + 5 dats ten, dat mean 1 - 0, da ONENESS of Yah - Weh. Je - ho - va. Rab- bi Yesh-u-a. We makin' it outta Cell Block G with this one!
>Ancient Europeans could find plenty of common ground between their pantheons, yet millions of Whites today are stuck on counterproductive purity spiraling.
100% (1 + 0 + 0, ay yo hol up..)
>rigid religiosity leading the deceased toward "belief system territories" after they die that can inhibit their spiritual evolution.
I don't wanna do anything that would inhabit me going higher up the chain, this life and its stressors suck, I need some rec time out on that Mormon planet with Xenu's yard or something that isn't reincarnation on Earth and the sufferings of flesh
>we could do better nowadays if the will were there.
White men built the world and whatevers to come, we will make it great
>Tardcath LARPers won't acknowledge this as one of the few good things about Catholicism
Do you remember all those dudes coming out the woodwork talking about convert to Orthodoxy, based Orthodox church. Imagine some twitter sperg walking into a Orthodox church, buncha old Greek guys talking about the old country and reminiscing and he's just dumbfounded and thinking w-wtf this isn't like what PopeLeoXIIGroyper told me at all!
>I'm glad that only Turd Worlders seem to be joining their ranks in large numbers these days.
Lots of Brazilian favela monkeys believe in evangelical third temple Huckabee-ism apparently. I remember one of y'all posting that video of Joao draped in the pissraeli flag praying, lmao. Was that you that posted that? Video was really funny. I've seen other videos like that from huehuehue land, crazy bastards. They are either super based /ourguys/ or super retarded, I swear. Maybe they still use lead paint.
>They still have way more influence than the world needs. Anything more than zero influence is too much.
100%
>Even Christianity is used by many of the loud-and-proud religious right-wingers as a political fetish object more than something they sincerely believe
If you scour the local churches, you won't see the e-christians anywhere. They are all holed up in some discord doing 'bible study' then alt-tabbing over to femboy porn and think they're exemplars of the faith. Its sad seeing people fall for these labyrhinthe positions rather than just admitting the truth of Great Replacement and becoming racially aware and militant about the 14 Words and preserving the existence of our White race.
>In the past, religion would inform political affiliation. With those people, it's the other way around.
Yes like they are shopping for a trendy religion to go along with their political compass memes so they can measure dicks against the other groypers, lul.
>The problem is the level of political clout they have, especially with regard to our foreign policy.
Huckabee should've been taken out many years ago. There's too many swine like that. Randy Fine will become an increasingly noxious precense. Ted Cruz is pretty bad. These people would've been [redacted in the head] in any sane society or time period
>Christian apologists act like converts decided to dispassionately adopt the religion based on rational argumentation
Even to this day there's no rational argumentation to what they believe in, it always inevitably leans on appeals to emotion

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>>178472
skipped this one, this post will be out of order slightly my bad

>I'm also not sure whether they're intelligent all across the board
They aren't. Jews have nigger-tier spatial awareness and score very low on that section of the test where you do shape patterns and rotate shapes. Make for horrible drivers and athletes because of it. Their brains can't into hand-eye coordination. I knew a jew that was hell on wheels on the road and it was scary seeing how he operated, I wouldn't be surprised in the least if he killed somebody on the road. And it explains why there are so few jews in sports as the players. They are 85% of the owners however.
>How good are they at engineering, for example, compared to something like writing?
I will grant that they have high verbal IQ, but all that really means is they are master bullshitters. Its hard to sell books in todays world, you gotta have clout and a digital footprint and its more important having a lot of twitter followers and stuff like that than the actual book writing parts. I guess this explains why so many are drawn to lawyering.
>entities people claim to encounter aren't manifestations of the same force used to push us in a certain direction
>Jacques Vallee's ideas about there being an otherworldly control system behind the UFO phenomenon and putting on different masks
This life is just a dream and the universe is entirely mental. We're really in 7-D reality doing non-linear space-time engineering, doing engine repairs on a craft right now and we're lead towards worse incarnations when we die by malicious entities. We have to resist all temptation and be steadfast in our disbelief to whatever crap they try and throw at us and eventually you will wake up as the 7-D reality alien-man turning a wrench on a UFO or something. This type of belief holds great weight for me, I've had visions along this theme all my life. Reincarnation can and should elevate a man after death but the Earth is a prison planet under control of various Archonic beings thats job is to bring us down and keep us down to get us reincarnated in progressively lower and lower forms so they can take over everything. Take over the world, then other realms. The jews are these beings lackeys here on Earth.
>What good is free will if your creations are stuck on rails following a course you've ultimately predetermined?
I think in terms of the debate around this and operating within the christian belief, doing this like as a thought experiment, that the Calvinists are right about everything being deterministic and the rest of the Christians just aren't psychologically capable of accepting that because it would damn them to Hell so they cope and say its not true but careful study of the bible leads me to think free will doesn't even exist according to the biblical canon. Obviously I eschew all of that and think free will exists, but if you take the bible literally, it proves the Calvinists right to me and I haven't seen decent arguments refuting it.
>Book of Job, Satan and Yahweh work together, life on rails
And also if my choices are life on rails with yahweh or free will with satan, I would take satan. Life on rails as a puppet, as a puppet kept ignorant with lies and falsehoods, totally giving up on this life banking on a 2nd life that may or may not come? What "life" even is that? How is someone living like that more real than a character in a TV show at a certain point?
>It's like presuppositionalists and their kikeslave fallacy
Love that term. HT clowned on Jay hard. I can't believe anyone would ever take presuppositionalism seriously. There is so much abundance in Life and to condense it all into 1 book? To deny your thinking brain and the evidence of your reasoning ability for what da good book says? Its a good term, kikeslave fallacy.
>once you've successfully installed the original sin guilt chip in a large percentage of the White population, it's not hard to pull it out and slip in the updated White privilege firmware update when the time comes around.
From monks whipping themselves on their knees in prayer after killing their cousin for being a "pagan", to mandatory MAID for Whites enforced down the barrel of a gun
>They don't want to lose their Jesus security blankie
Another safety blankie keeping people docile and compliant is drugs. Another arm of the genocide machine

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>>178476
I think that's all of my Smuggies. I will comb back thru the thread and see if there's any stragglers left in my folder and will post any new ones if there are.

>>178476
>It's too bad the French have fallen so far.
Weep for what has been lost! I like some aspects of French mentality and lifestyle
>Nowadays it seems like the French have very little cultural cachet at all compared to what they used to.
Well a lot of it was self-inflicted with them importing half of Africa to come live with them. There was always the north afris but now its just flat out an african colony, its sad how far they have fallen.
>I admire the hostility toward the clergy and ecclesiastical corruption that the deists of that time had.
Clergy always been a buncha fat drunks and boy-molesting fruits, lol. I like Ezekiel Polk's epitaph you posted
>It's sad how many people spend their entire lives wrapped up in all that church plantation
Its sadder still what happened to France. Gone, the great writers! The good wine and women spoiled on the vine. Titans of culture and the arts, true bon vivants. And now Paris looks like Kuwait and the N. Afri gangs took the place over. What's happened to all of Europe in regards to this makes my blood boil. Never ever give up your guns!!
>I like the straight-back look
Some dudes can really pull it off well but IDK that my face shape would be a fit for it personally lol. Still oughta try it one day
>The fact that they conferred the "chosen" title upon themselves is something they don't want to acknowledge given the ridiculous amount of power it's given them.
Deep down they know they are frauds and one day a great reckoning storm will come
>Air is free.
And what a bargain! Mazel tov!
>the production on Hear Nothing See Nothing Say Nothing is pretty much perfect
Thats their best album for sure
>there are only so many people who are willing to accept what's going on.
So we should cultivate our best and brightest into leadership and bring out the best of our people and leave the lemmings to lemming it up. This will strengthen our future progeny as well, not having the dysgenic chucklefucks around. Populism did serve a useful purpose, but I think that time is starting to wind down and we should adapt to something more efficient.