I just came across a few more quotes that I thought were worth posting. It really seems to me that neo-Confederates have done a disservice to the Confederacy by uncritically adopting the Quid outlook, as if the Quids weren't clueless and out of touch just like the Northern Republicans. The antebellum Davis Democrats and their successors among the Confederates were clearheaded enough to put aside the excessive hamstringing of the federal government that the Quids wanted and also the petty bickering along sectionalist, religious, class, and ethnic lines that it seems like everyone else was guilty of. They wanted white power above all.
Outside of their complete ignorance of the Jay Cue, they do seem like a pretty good template for a modern American nationalist movement. While within living memory it wasn't at all uncommon for Northerners to admire things about the Confederates or certain people within the Confederacy, I think a lot of people have been under the impression that the Confederacy was strictly against non-Southerners. Although there were people like that, Jefferson Davis was more broadminded and saw himself as holding up the ideas of the American Revolution as a whole. I tend to dislike the modern-day cheerleaders of the Union and the Confederacy, who seem to be all about seething over the other side over 150 years later, but I think it's well past the time people started giving credit where credit is due. And in that spirit, I think Northerners should be less shy to embrace the better parts of the Confederacy. It's not like there weren't guys in the North who sympathized with people like Davis back then anyway.
As gay as I think it is for people to fret over finding historical precedents for their own views (as if every viewpoint or ideology wasn't novel at one time), it does feel reassuring to find genuine American antecedents to the modern alternative right (or whatever you want to call it) before and during the Civil War.
>>6185>the problem was that project was inherently corrupted by "enlightenment values" that led to the problems we have today.I'm not opposed to everything that came out of the Enlightenment, but it definitely had its excesses.
>Yeah the idea of "rights" in general in the enlightment terms are just fucking stupid in the context of the current year and even back than.All the blather about "natural rights" and "natural law" has never made sense to me. The various proponents of the idea act like it's so obvious that they exist, but the different groups who espouse the concepts apparently can't come to much of a consensus on what they are or what they entail. And talk of "law" would seem to imply that there would be clear consequences for deviating from the ideas in question. What are the negative ramifications for wearing a condom, which Catholics have traditionally claimed is a violation of natural law? Although I'm pretty critical of him nowadays, I think Robert Anton Wilson's book on natural law that prominently uses that example is pretty decent.
>I would prefer an immortal worm-king/god emperor.A Golden Path proponent, eh?