No.342724
In this house…Columbus is a god damn hero anon.
No.342725
The original Scarface i guess
No.342728
I'm watching the show in full for the first time, along with some people. It's a good show but it hasn't become one of my top 5 favorite shows yet.
No.342736
>>342728>It's a good show but it hasn't become one of my top 5 favorite shows yet.How far into it are you?
No.342737
>>342728All the bros got together and decided it was the best tv ever made you know?
No.342741
Dumb dagos
No.342743
>>342737>>342741Gabagool anon, its certainly an entertaining show at that.
No.342753
>>342736Near the end of season three.
No.342755
>>342728>>342736>>342753I felt the same way, good show but not one of my favorites. I think it's because the show is too real and shows how dumb and unlikeable real mobsters are, it's good writing but there are basically no characters with sympathetic motivations.
No.342759
>>342755Why do you need to insert or sympathize with the characters? It's not that kind of show.
No.342761
>>342759because normie society has left me jaded
No.342762
>>342725I save the obvious choices for last. I got halfway through Little Caeser (1931) on jewtube but it only has audio on the left speaker for some reason so I stopped it. I liked Joes Masarra having an American accent even though he's supposed to be an adult immigrant from Sicily.
No.342764
>>342723Pretty much any gangster movie with James Cagney is decent at the very least. White Heat, The Roaring Twenties, and Angels with Dirty Faces are probably my favorites of those.
No.342766
>>342755>I think it's because the show is too real and shows how dumb and unlikeable real mobstersI don't care about that aspect, any kind of american is retarded IMO, see their "italians", "irish", "german", "afro", "asians", etc.
No.342769
>>342766What great country do you hail from?
No.342770
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>>342728The main problem is that it has gotten so popular to the point of becoming a cashcow for HBO, meaning the show can get really retarded due to high demand, same thing with Breaking Bad and Oz.
No.342778
>>342770So you can't enjoy nice things if they get popular? I wouldn't want to be in your shoes.
No.342783
Dagos look like muslims
No.342788
>>342766fuck the dutch, czeks, and scandinavians too
No.342789
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>>342778Oh yeah let's ignore how retarded these hack writers tend to get and squeeze away the little talent they had. Saints of Newark must be a misunderstood masterpiece by following your logic.
No.342790
>>342789The main problem with the Many Saints of Newark was the cuckold subplot, they were riding the wave of post-Obama negrophilia that had taken root. It got made too late.
No.342946
>>342755The show is based around making the audience feel sympathy for these characters then drifting between comedy and tragedy. To really get the characters, you have to accept a feeling of sympathy for people in a completely alternate structure and mindset from your own. You would not want to be friends with these people in real life. The show makes it clear what happens to their friends. However, you must position yourself within their culture. They're caricatures, but they represent aspects of life in the dwindling Italian-American culture of the 90s and 00s.
Tony wants to be in control and return to the old days but struggles with the realities of Italian-American identity, modern times, childhood trauma, family drama, and his psychological differences with others. Paulie wants the respect he thinks he deserves but struggles with ignorance, age, place in the family, and family drama. Christopher wants to be successful and respected and make Tony both his father and brother but struggles with his aspirations outside the family, arrogance, addiction, and the loyalty of others.
>>342770The Sopranos does get retarded in its later seasons, but a lot of that can be blamed on differences between the actors, HBO, and director. The actors wanted it to go on forever and have a revolving door of plots that are set up and resolved later. The director wanted things to end, but he wrote himself into a corner. HBO also wanted it to end, mostly due to the cost of the actors, but they wouldn't give the director the final season he needed to wrap things up. If the Sopranos had lasted until 2008, it could have gone on for twice the length because of the material the Recession, Obama, and BLM would have provided, but it wouldn't have been the same.
No.342951
I'm avoiding this thread because of spoilers. But I'd like to know what old Sopranos fans think about season 4.
I'm finding this to be the weakest season so far.
No.342975
>>342946BLM wasn't a thing yet, but there was a paradigm shift in the culture in 2007, and I agree it wouldn't have been the same if it continued. It was probably for the best to end it there.
No.343007
>>342951Season 4 is a transition for the series, but the story that stuck with me the most from it was Ralphie's. Things set up in Seasons 1-3 start paying off but in ways that set up Seasons 5-6/7. That said, it meanders a lot and spends an episode trying to do a from-the-headlines story that could have been cut. I think you'll like Buscemi's character in Season 5. I know I did.
You can count how many things were introduced in this season then cut on both hands after its finale. It leaves a sour taste.>>342975That's right, BLM was 2013. Still, the racial politics of the Obama era wouldn't have been conducive to the Sopranos as they were. There were always attempts to tackle the racial question, but it wouldn't have been able to touch a thing like that. Saints of Newark proves it, and they already fucked up responding to 9/11 and the War on Terror. They couldn't show footage of 9/11 because it would have been in poor taste, but even the guys from New York acted like nothing happened.
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>>343007Is true New Jersey was also affected by the ape escape movement? Because according to Michael Franzese that never happened when he was extorting to his locals in the 70s.
No.343023
>>343007>they already fucked up responding to 9/11 and the War on TerrorI thought they handled it well. Why do you think they fucked it up?
No.343060
coon faggy show
>>342946>>343007>essayfag No.343078
>>343023Everything involving the credit card Arabs may as well have been a diversion until the payoff. It seemed like the writers were indecisive about it until the final episodes. You could put anyone in their position, and it would barely change anything. Tony worrying about a nuke in New York Harbor sounded stupid, and the plot about the docks and harbor played too hard into being relevant because the staff was fumbling around with the pulse of the times after having caught it so well in the first three seasons. Italian-Americans are really racist, as seen in the first few seasons, yet the tension of there being Arabs in their midst after 9/11 is barely addressed. 9/11 as an event is barely addressed.
I have my suspicions that how much the War on Terror screwed things up contributed to the series adopting two year gaps in its schedule, which eventually caused HBO to want it gone. The transitions between Season 5 and 6 and 6 Part 1 and 6 Part 2 felt like entire seasons had passed between them which the audience didn't see.
No.343080
>>343078>9/11 as an event is barely addressed.Also I seem to recall Tony asking something to Dr. Melfi like "why do they want to do terrorism, these guys are really sick!" or something like that. I also noticed that scene in which Meadow was wearing the T-shirt with the American flag on it. It seemed like they were playing to both sides, showing patriotic symbolism on on hand, and commenting on the paranoia of the times, like Tony worrying about the bomb, on the other.
No.343317
Is it true that the creator of the show had to perform a ritual of for the Jews to let him do the show?
No.343323
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From 2 months ago
No.343404
Vito remembers me of someone.
No.343415
>>342723My favourite is Silvia Soprano <3
No.343437
Do you guys think the show is really depth and well written or just pretentious and innovative?
No.343450
>>342755>no characters with sympathic motivationsIs that what you look for in a show? Melfi did have sympathetic motivations. The show is based on the mob and the greatest writing of any show ever made, and your reason for not liking it is retarded. Mafia life is ugly you shithead. No shit there aren't a lot of characters with sympathetic motivations.
Sounds like you need to go back to reddit and stay there.
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Is this true or bullshit? And what other actors have been destroyed because of a role?
No.343505
>>343460Woke up this morning
Got yourself a 'mon
No.343518
>>343484Mosaltini was right on the money when he called out Tony's obesity.
>Actors that got their lives fucked afterwardsSeinfeld's cast and Frankie Muniz got their lives ruined and nobody took them seriously, but if you're talking about actors who ruined their physique: Jared Leto comes in and the James Bond guy.
No.343532
>>343505I get why other spics seethe so much about cubans, they are the most talented and chads of all latrinos.
No.343538
If you were Christopher Moltisanti, Would you have handed Adriana over to the mafia?
No.343547
>>343538Ad flipped, he had no choice.
No.343548
>>343547Of course he had a choice. She was hitting the wall, but she was still loyal to him and was way above his league.
He could have accepted the damn feds and gotten out. He'd already seen that loyalty never pays in the mafia despite all the fantasy behind it.
No.343560
>>343556He died like a rat and went to hell. Doesn't seem like a good end to me.
No.343562
>>343560No he didn't, Tony even realized he over reacted when Paulie mentioned regretting pressuring Chris to take cocaine. But Tony at that point felt validation in all his decisions.
No.343589
>>343538Yeah. The options are to betray everyone I know for a woman who has been unfaithful to me in the past and can't have kids or live in dishonor in a place completely separated from my heritage but have said woman as a wife. It would hurt, but it's an easy choice in the end.
>>343562Tony goes through waves of regret and conviction over Christopher's death. He regrets doing it because he liked Christopher as a person and a relative, but he hated Christopher as a business associate and a father. Killing Christopher was a way to get rid of a financial and personal headache. If Christopher had stopped using, it would have been the wrong choice. If Christopher had continued using, it would have been the right one. Tony's immediate view of the child seat in the back of the car is the deciding factor in this. Christopher was irresponsible both as a captain and as a father. He knew he had to clean up, but he couldn't get serious. If Christopher had been transporting something for Tony's child, his business, their family both in the sense of the mafia and extended family would be ruined. If Christopher had been transporting his own child, his family would have been ruined.
No.343591
>>343589>The options are to betray everyone I know for a woman who has been unfaithful to me in the past and can't have kids or live in dishonor in a place completely separated from my heritage but have said woman as a wife.That's the same option.
No.343592
>>343589I forgot Christopher had a child in the end. Did he have it with a cumare?
No.343601
>>343589I still feel for Christopher. Again he had been bullied by the entire crew for finding strength in his family, so to fit in he started partaking again. Also he was kind of right to ask Tony to take the wheel for him considering 95% of his job is driving here and there for whatever.
No.343602
>>343600Dago women should be seeded by blue eyed men so we can reclaim the aryan genes lost to the moorish scum.
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>>343601>feel for ChristopherDon't, he appeared in this piece of shit.
No.343611
>>343600Right, he got with her after Ad got clipped?
No.343613
>>342723I didn't like this series.
No.343615
>>343611I thought it was kawaii. Time goes by after they take out the empty egg carton and Chris and Kelli's scene starts with her acting all nervous and tells him she's pregnant, and Chris gets shocked with happiness and just in the moment tells her "let's get married" with a goofy grin. A small bit of reprieve in these monsters lives.
No.343626
>the episode of the sopranos where the jew approvals the evangelical because of their love for Israel.
No.343634
>>343626It was another solid point for Catholicism.
No.343635
Nobody in the show died, they are already in hell, nothing from the show is real.
No.343637
>>343634This is like cancer vs aids, anon.
No.343710
Chris is a jew
No.343733
>>343726>And why the hell a mobster boss goes to the therapist if knowing she'll end up spilling the beans to the glowies because the law forces her to do it?It's supposed to be irony, a real wiseguy doesn't go to the shrink, also Tony chooses his words carefully with Dr. Melfi and never incriminates himself until later on when they get close.
No.343735
>>343591I was more focused on the second reply. "Or" was meant to be "and", then there would have been the second option, which is to live in regret over killing this woman, who helped me get over my addiction and agonized over her inability to have my children but live in honor among my heritage.
>>343592Rebound girl turned wife. She was nice, but she didn't get a lot of screen time.
>>343601They couldn't stand seeing him having a way out of the family both in lifestyle and economics. He had to be dependent on them one way or the other. His job was to drive Tony and be his right hand man, but he already proved to be a failure as a driver for getting into the wreck in the first place. He still had someone who was just as capable of driving him in the wings.
>>343726That was a major point of the early seasons.
No.343742
Abe did the right thing, Chris is a retarded, he got what he deserve.
>>343726A nigger also sucker punched Rick Moranis.
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>>343726Man what happened to Steve Buscemi?
No.343808
>>343796He has always looked old as fuck, even in the '90s.
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>>342723You won't take seriously any movie project with the cast, look at Gandolfini, everyone keeps bringing up gabagool jokes and versatile athlete 11 years after his death. Similar with Seinfeld's.
No.344891
>>342723Has anyone watched The Penguin show? It's supposed to be an incarnation of The Sopranos.
No.344900
Chris went to hell for following Tony. He should have run away with Ade.