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>>365536
jews

>>365537
But Beezos isn't jewish

>>365538
kek

Why do the Tolkien family always bitch about the fact that all media based on middle earth sucks and is tarnishing Tolkien's legacy yet they allow this shit to be made to begin with?
>money
Yeah, might as well milk it off as long as the copyright still exists. The Hobbit will go in public domain in 2032 in USA and 2043 in UK.

>>365696
One of Tolkiens Grandkids married a yid what do you expect?

>>365715
That explains a lot

>>365715
Was it a grandson, or granddaughter?

>>365724
grandson

The thing about Tolkien was as much as he respected European culture he had the cancer of Christianity in his head. Even being a Catholic could not save him from sucking Jewish Dick and basing the Dwarven language on the Jews, despite their actions never being in line with things Jews would ever do, such as being brave, creating civilization, or doing anything of value at all. He even mocked Germans who spoke to him pre-war and said he would like to view the Dwarves as jews. He claimed to hate allegory but his books have a lot of indirect ones/comparisons and his philosemitism along with his refusal to acknowledge true solutions is why he will never truly be le based and redpilled. You could literally learn more from George R. R. Martins books in the sense that they somewhat more follow reality even if he is a 4th kike. Tolkien is good for getting into pre-christian myth with more christian/contemporary Western Morality of the 20th-21st century.

>>365736
This is true. I've always thought "you need to throw le ring of power away!" is dumb. If you have ultimate power use it to get rid of evil, don't piss it away. Two options: be corrupt or don't have power at all is a false dichotomy. Somebody will rule. You want it to not be the jews.

>>365736
>ultimate power
It turns you invisible. That's literally all it does.

>>365736
>everything has to be an expy of real world politics
This is a tiresome argument. Imagine thinking you can learn anything from Martin just because his shit was "more realistic" than Tolkienshit, which isn't even true. The only reason so many people praise gurmshit is because of recency bias. Calling Tolkienshit awful is one thing and there are definitely points that can be made against it, but saying gurmshit is above it is simply delusional.

>>365737
Even the most cursory read of the books will tell you that the ring gives you incredible power but makes you controllable by Sauron, and it is implied that eventually you will be completely taken over by him as you keep using the ring's power. To put it in terms you retards can understand then it's like becoming one of the wealthiest and most influential people in the world, but you must also be at Israel's beck and call at all times.

>>365746
This is only for men, and non-sorcer men. The Ring Of Power enhances every aspect of a sorcerer or powerful being. Due to Tolkiens Christcuckery he wrote LOTR as a sort of soft rebuke of Pagan Legends. Boromir is the Pagan Hero who gets the magical artifact and vanquishes evil with it but because he is in a christnigger story he dies cause it supposedly always corrupts. The Ring is itself based upon The Ring of Gyges from Plato's Republic. One brother believes that a Ring that makes one invisible would make them become corrupt in time cause they could get away with anything, another brother argues with good character the power could be used for greatness and decency. Tolkien the Christcuck argues for pure corruption from a christian moral perspective. Remember in Christianity only Yaweh can truly destroy evil, even Frodo loses himself and its Eru Neoplatonic God plus Yaweh so christcuck god that pushes Golem into mount Doom in the end.

Sauron himself is Tolkiens critique of Nietzsche's overman and is more or less styled as a God-King. In many ways his solutions to world problems make more sense than some of Tolkiens. My issue with Tolkiens take on "evil," Christianity aside is the idea that craftsmen are where evil comes from. Tolkien himself half rebukes his own take when he claims evil onlt perverts, not creating. Real "evil" is how Jews are, how mant women are by defualt. Feminine and self-serving, parasitic.
>>36574
I really like CIA in a song of ice and fire and imagine him in the power stance.

I agree with you that the ring's corruption could easily be compared to that today but unlike the ring in Tolkiens work you could always tell the kikes to fuck off and not he a dog.

Ofc the contrarian nazi psychopaths here admit to wanting to use the ring lmao. And hate the purity and innocence of middle earth

I wonder if our resident Nazi even realizes that the final conclusion of the Lord of the Rings (always cut from film adaptations) where Frodo comes home and kicks Sauron out of the Shire was a pretty blatant allegory about Britain's de-Nazification after WW2.

>>365758
heil hitler

>>365753
If you aren't a retard than why not use it, the Ring can only truly corrupt if you subscribe to Tolkien's flawed Catholic Morality.
>>365758
It was Saruman and in many ways it was Tolkiens personal fantasy of somehow maintaining the English countryside he so beloved rather than actually do something like physically remove those who would one day turn it into the dystopia he made of it.
>>365763
HH brother

>>365736
I agree about the Christian influence on his work.
>>365747
I'll at least credit Gurm with not relying on simplistic black-and-white morality in his work from what I know of it.
>>365748
>My issue with Tolkiens take on "evil," Christianity aside is the idea that craftsmen are where evil comes from.
Tolkien was an old fogey who hated technology. I get having skepticism about the direction the world is heading in when the environment is rapidly being degraded and technology is increasingly being used as a tool to control the masses and keep them out of touch with nature, but I increasingly find that kind of agrarian romanticism tiring. There has to be a middle path between transhumanist insanity and sentimental peasant larping.

>>365769
being an innocent wholesome leftist is inherently white. Where i diverge from woke faggots is there should be white leftism, not just leftism

A leftist gay space luxury utopia requires high trust and high iq white brains

White leftist havens are already doing amazing things. Vermont is entirely run on renewable energy, and iceland has a 35 hour work week. Imagine if the whole world was like this

>>365772
Vermont also manufactures essentially nothing and has basically nobody living in it and exists mostly as a retirement community, so that's not exactly impressive.

>>365773
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_population_density

Its also small tho. Its ranked about the middle for population density

True about being old tho

Sucks. All i want is a young white place that also isnt retarded low iq white trash redneck. Its basically impossible to find

>>365776
Sucks that high value high iq high class whites are the ones that fell to wokeness. The only non woke whites are fucking garbage low iq redneck whites and slavic subhumans

>>365776
https://x.com/RTTL_Official/
they built one in arkansas

>>365776
Right. But I'm saying "running on renewable energy" isn't really that big of a flex when you have zero actual heavy industry. All that shit you use has to come from somewhere, and that somewhere won't use renewable energy, because it just doesn't scale unless you use something like nuclear which gives leftists the sads.

Vermont makes nothing. It's tiny. It's a retirement home for boomer shitlibs. Lots of the lefty utopian nonsense works fine if that's your sample size, almost nobody, they're all old, and they aren't worried about producing anything. For the rest of the actual world outside their bubbles none of that dumb shit works.

>>365818
This is exactly what i mean tho. "Return to the land" more luddite anti technology peasant larping

I want high tech white leftist utopia

>>365821
"Hasnt worked?" Theres also iceland and northern Europe as good examples of high iq high quality white leftist havens. Theyre advanced and happy af.

>>365818
I've been following the RTTL project since it was just starting, and it's really heartening to see the progress they've been making. It suck how much the gapers have been ankle biting Aarvoll just for politely disagreeing with Spic Fuentes in certain respects when he's actually out there making a difference in the real world.
>>365824
It's not peasant larping. They're tech-savvy guys. From early on the project attracted programmers and people like that. They actually wanted to attracted more blue-collar guys earlier who have more hands-on skills, and I think they might have been concerned about bringing in too many tech workers.

I get what you mean about the leftist thing though. I'm more socially libertarian than conservative, am antireligious, and don't think of myself as being traditional, so RTTL membership isn't for me. Most people who are pro-white are more conservative than I am, or at least like posturing as being conservative. I hope that similar projects will spring up in the future that offer more options.

>>365826
I see. Well either way its a burgeoning white nation seemingly so thats always good. But yea i don't get the obsession other white nationalists have with jerking off in a cave. The whole point of the glory of white men is being classy and civilized and technological

For me it's Morfydd Clark <3

>>365777
Like you're any better!

>>365825
Iceland has no industry and primarily survives off of imports of basically anything more complex than primary production and even that's mostly imported. It's one of the smallest countries on earth in terms of population size, it's not even half a million people. Again, lefty untopian bullshit works fine on very very tiny population sizes.

Northern europe has almost completely de-industrialized, which means they just have to import all the shit they need from elsewhere usually china but that's a massive oversimplification. Because you're a lefty, which means you're retarded as to how the world works, that means that if that country you're dependant on for basically everything (cars, steel, medication, construction materials, gas/oil, often food itself) decides they don't like you anymore, they have you by the balls and can do with you as they wish.

Again nigger, none of this shit works. There aren't really any northern european industrial powerhouses. They're all net importers of seriously important shit.

>>365826
> I hope that similar projects will spring up in the future that offer more options.

A leftist, nontraditional return to the land movement would immediately be flooded with niggers and spics. That's an intrinsi part of leftism nowadays. Maybe it wasn't before but it is now. You can probably put all the pro white leftists that *don't* constantly obsess over BBC in one barn.

>>365833
>>365835
Pretty sure hes the white leftist who thinks whites should shre their women among themselves aka a cuckold.

>>365837
>A leftist, nontraditional return to the land movement would immediately be flooded with niggers and spics.
If it's not racially exclusionary, then that's correct. The problem is that there aren't very many pro-white leftists out there to help create such a thing. Even allowing non-whites to enter in principle but filtering most of them out would lead to leftists to wail and gnash their teeth. Modern leftism is about anti-whiteness first and foremost. That's also the problem with that red-brown alliance bullshit that used to get promoted. A right-winger and a left-winger who call themselves anti-capitalist are talking about two different things, and there's not going to be much common ground between them.

In any case, I'd like to see all kinds of pro-white settlements pop up when possible. Even a few politically homeless oddballs banding together is at least some kind of community. Let a hundred bigoted flowers bloom.
>>365838
I don't see a problem with that if he could actually make it work. I think the Asperger king Robert Stark is right to think that the days of being able to expect sexual monogamy are over for the average Joe.
https://robertstark.substack.com/p/the-case-for-embracing-unconventional
>>365841
I'm not really a libertarian or a leftist either. I'm just closer to a libertarian than a real conservative in that I don't really care about a lot of the social hobbyhorses they love to get worked up over.

>>365858
>Lolbert
>Cuckold
Every fucking time!

Imagine you have your entire life to think about your intellectual conclusions and you choose what doesn't work and to be a cuckold.

>>365874
a real man is a cuckold. it shows big dick energy/security in one's masculinity

>>365875
Based and louispilled. BBC 4 ever

>>365875
>>365876
hell yeah

>>365879
The last thing coonseether ever sees

>>365881
He kills him.

>>365736
>>365747
The ring symbolizes Power as viewed by someone whose religion professes humility and abnegation and whatnot. It only grants abilities or """"power"""" to its bearer in appearance while exacting a heavy toll.
Always. Systematically.
Just like Power, the ring is seductive and impressive but inevitably leads its bearers to ruin - except those who fight its temptation.
It turned Gollum into a cave gooner, it alienated Isildur from his trusted allies and got him killed, it drove Sam away from his best friend who dived in the river to save his life in the previous movie.
The point of the ring as a metaphorical token was also to highlight how some virtuous characters honorably overcame its temptation: Gandalf's caution, Galadriel's willpower and Aragorn's Gary Stu-tier pure fucking heart.
And because a Christian wrote the story, he also left for weaker characters (sinners) like Boromir and Faramir that were duped by the ring's temptation a path of redemption to attain even greater honor after their fall.

It's really sad to see how many people miss the metaphorical significance of the ring and lose themselves in theorizing the objective historical outcomes of such and such accepting the ring. The point of the story is that it would suck no matter what.
As a maia Sauron can't be killed. He's an eternal threat looming over the hearts of anyone who can potentially be seduced by it (everyone), like a satanic figure so evil that it willingly dissolves itself in its task of seducing and corrupting as many minds as possible.

>>365930
>It's really sad to see how many people miss the metaphorical significance of the ring and lose themselves in theorizing the objective historical outcomes of such and such accepting the ring
You only interpret it from his christfag perspective without putting into perspective what he based it off of. I make a rejection of his beliefs that the Ring he based the One Ring off of would inevitably corrupt the individual. You are only able to see it that way if you interpret it in Tolkien's Christcucked worldview. You need to stop worshiping these people and acting like they are supposedly so much more intelligent than us, authors like Tolkien were especially soft, meek, timid and not at all deserving of every bit of praise they have.
>The point of the story is that it would suck no matter what
Of course he claims that because hes a christcuck who hated true power and also thought all technology was the devil, he was a romanticist to such an extent that he had no true solutions to world problems which is why its tiring when people try to claim the guy who sucked off kikes was based and redpilled.

Same thing with Sauron who viewed the way Eru Yaweh+Neoplatonic God AKA Christian God ruled the world as corrupt, he wanted to mold the world in his image, he wished to rule as a God-king and to be a divinity that would influence Arda rather than have nothing truly divine among it. He simply rejected the Christian metaphysical worldview of the world and during the 2nd era he denies Eru's existence. Sauron wanted to be the bridgehead between humanity/dwarves/elves and divinity rather than bow to priestly christian-lunarian bullshit. He is in many ways closer to traditional European/Aryan spiritualism than Tolkien's Catholicism and is also Tolkien's primary argument against Nietzsche's post religious Ubermensch and Chesterton/Spengler's Caesars of dying eras. The thing is that Sauron much like the God-Emperor of mankind of 40K could easily be a permanent and positive demagogue cause he wouldn't die and see his empire of personality fall apart around him. Alexander the Great
>As a maia Sauron can't be killed.
>He's an eternal threat looming over the hearts of anyone who can potentially be seduced by it (everyone)
Actually at the end of the book Sauron and Saurumon are so reduced in power so much that they will never be a threat to anyone again, at least till the semi-canon Dagor Dagorath where Morgoth returns from the doors of night and tries to rape the world.

>It turned Gollum into a cave gooner, it alienated Isildur from his trusted allies and got him killed
>it drove Sam away from his best friend who dived in the river to save his life in the previous movie.
Ahh so you may not have as much knowledge on the books I guess.

It also greatly extended Gollums life and Molded him into its guardian because the Ring is Sauron, or at least a piece of his will. Isildir himself was to weak to usurp the ring from Sauron which is why he inevitably would be killed by it. Also the Ring didn't entirely work on Sam, he was able to pretty effectively resist it and instead of turning him invisible it turned him into the appearance of a hulking Gondorian Warrior if I remember correctly.

>The point of the ring as a metaphorical token was also to highlight how some virtuous characters honorably overcame its temptation
>power le bad because it just is
>only yaweh can save us from our sins

>Gandalf's caution, Galadriel's willpower and Aragorn's Gary Stu-tier pure fucking heart.
It actually implies with Gandalf and Galadriel that they are potentially strong enough to take the one ring away from Sauron and become it's master but it has the same inevitable christ-cuck lense power corrupts shit that's in Lord of the Rings, its also so tiresome and philosemetic. Also Aragorn is written as an ideal king of both pre-christian and post-christianized Europe, he is like king Arthur so its a given he would never fall to temptation.

>And because a Christian wrote the story, he also left for weaker characters (sinners) like Boromir and Faramir that were duped by the ring's temptation a path of redemption to attain even greater honor after their fall.
For Boromir in particular my same stance still stands, he is a tradtional pagan hero who is softly rebuked with his death by Tolkien who being Catholic and still having a soft-spot for his pre-christcuck ancestors is unable to fully attack Pagans like christcucks of the past or protestant cuckolds/modern christcuck larpers today. He often tries to have his cake and it eat it in The Silmarillion where he will showcase noble pagan deeds as misguided or foolish at best. When he has the Son's of Feanor make an obviously dangerous and binding oath to regain their father's lost treasure at the cost of everything. Of course being a Christian he has this oath lead them to murder and to ruin for themselves and they are unable to regain the Simarils, instead losing all of them. One son Magalor finds redemption by fostering Elros and Elrond.

>>365537
first post best fpbp