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>>2861Yes, Atlantis is super-fake, it's a story by Plato and Socrates, people took any idea of possible "lost civilizations" and swept them under this and other fantasy RPG ideas.
If there are good traces of lost civilizations they wouldn't be lost, like the stuff about Sea Peoples we only end up with somewhat obfuscated facts more than an actual lost civilization of note.
We have an effect, there must be a cause, and we just have poor info at times about what group was the cause.
Was watching this "Heathen" guy talking about Odin, how he was a real person who just sort of obtained godhood, so really this paganist was an atheist, in the sense they don't really imagine any supernatural influence. What they really want to do is go against Christianity, à la the Church of Satan. Yet in their framework Christianity is the same thing, fake thing people treat as real, so there isn't really a problem with following Christianity they just don't like the rules and crave a more hedonistic morality system based on kin and such.
Many want a system of magic that conforms to their predisposed ideas of leftism morality, so they've purposefully chosen to follow a path that guides them the least away from all their earthly sins and problems.
Meanwhile, Catholics just blame everything on Protestantism while they suffer one profound corruption scandal after another, really we're seeing this trend of a search for meaning post 20th century everyone talks about, claiming every old system is broken and doesn't work, whether with science and it's progressive advancements or with innate and essential human qualia, they attempt to diagnose the patient post-hoc without regards to the body of the patient. So it's all just this failed post-hoc medicine ignoring elements if the patient they don't want to look at, the patient being something none of them can agree to m so they're not really having the same conversation/debate on their cure.
Much like how to fond the right political perspective you must agree on history in this great matter of the human we have to fond what it, in solitary and group settings, has as a relationship to the soul. This is humanness, and we find ourselves at a loss yet still willing to put the patient through any manner of treatment.