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 No.349185[Watch Thread]>>349192>>349208>>349453>>349541>>349843>>349855>>350777>>350780

I'm compiling a list of superhero movies and tv shows that are actually watchable. So far I have:
>Superman 1&2
>Spider-Man 1&2
>X-Men 1&2
>Batman (1989)
>The Rocketeer
>Batman the Animated Series
>Fleischer Superman cartoons
What else is there?

 No.349187>>349192

Spider-Man: The Animated Series
Darkman
The Tick

Superman: The Animated Series also seems pretty good from what I've watched.

 No.349191>>349194

>80's Superman
>00's Spiderman
>Watchable
Wrong.

 No.349192

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>>349185 (OP)
>>349187
All those and also Justice League, Mystery Men , Black Scorpion (1995), TMTN, Batman Beyond, Spider-Man Unlimited, X-Men: Evolution, The New Adventures of Zorro and Super Ramon.

I don't think some of your fags will take Darkwing Duck as "cape kino".

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>>349191
>>00's Spiderman is bad

 No.349202>>349204

>>349194
It is, shit-tier script, particularly 2

 No.349204>>349206

>>349202
You got offended with the "homophobic" and "antisemitic" parts, we get it.

 No.349206>>349209

>>349204
No, i got offended at Parker's naive mindset even after scrubbing crime often, i got offended by Doc Ock's retarded resolution in the ending and overall his ideas and people around seeing his advancements.
It's a kid's movie but i digress, not like a muttmerican would know what good is.

 No.349207>>349209>>349231>>349263

Superhero movies are for kids, they're really just the most simplistic power fantasies.

 No.349208>>349232>>349250

>>349185 (OP)

Top notch cast & production values and the love of the source material shines through. KINO!

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>>349206
>>349207
Hi its me.

I am back.

You deserve a kick in the balls.

 No.349230>>349421

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Man of Steel
Batman v Superman
Justice League (Snyder Cut)

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>>349207
Movie of the Year?

By Armond White

Man of Steel is the first superhero movie to be directed by a real filmmaker since Tim Burton took on Batman in 1989. Director Zack Snyder does more than reboot the past Superman franchises; he immediately gives the subject his signature-something Burton could not do until his second Batman movie, the comic/macabre Batman Returns (1992). Snyder has a grave sense of movement and excitement that is distinctly cinematic which cannot be said of the other directors who essayed previous Superman movies including the tongue-in-cheek Christopher Reeve films, as well as the various Batman flicks, X-Men, Star Wars, Star Trek, Iron Man, Punisher, Electra, Spiderman, Hellboy and Fantastic Four-the entire unsatisfying lot.
Unlike Burton, Snyder's sensibility derives from comic books and graphic novels yet his visual extravagance also contains the palpably erotic core of comic book fantasy. Snyder immediately invests the Superman story with this tactile realism, a feel for ancient legend: Opening scenes on the dying planet Krypton recall the stylization of 300 but with a slightly futuristic edge that never lapses into conventional superhero movie fantasy. (Snyder got that out of his system with Watchmen.) The arch otherworldliness of Jor-El (Russell Crowe) and his wife Lara Lor-Van (Ayelet Zurer) sending their newborn infant into outer space to survive Krypton's destruction and preserve their heritage from the tyrannical threat of General Zod (Michael Shannon) also evokes a kind of classicism. It doesn't play like sci-fi and when the story shifts to planet Earth where the alien boy Kal-El is raised as Clark Kent, Snyder effectively creates a contrasting, charged-up realism.
In Man of Steel, Snyder's ingenuity-his realistic panache-prevents the Superman story from mainly appealing to either adolescent whimsy or adult camp. He makes a radical break from past Superman movies and the entire recent movement of comic-book/graphic-novel-based films. That genre, where commercialism overwhelms imagination and hack directors (Jon Favreau, Shane Black, Tim Story) are undifferentiated from minor auteurs (Sam Raimi, Bryan Singer, J.J. Abrams) and distinguished directors (Irvin Kershner, Richard Lester), has accustomed audiences to a type of artificiality and silliness. They accept cliché narratives, routine violence and a basic lack of seriousness as standard. Man of Steel is marvelous, serious fun which changes all that.
Kal-El/Clark Kent (played by Henry Cavill) isn't called "Superman" until late in the story; his history and identity are the film's real subject. First seen bursting through flames as a Herculean physical specimen, his alien adjustment to Earth and humanity is a personal trial neatly conveyed through screenwriter David S. Goyer's multiple flashbacks. While Snyder gives the alien's feats a quality of wonder, Cavil conveys surprise, urgency and torment. Snyder is good at the physics of stress (The Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole is a masterpiece, I promise you) which separates Man of Steel from The Dark Knight trilogy.
Christopher Nolan (producer on Man of Steel) had a flat, cold directorial style only useful for his trilogy's cynicism. Snyder's kinetic pictorialism provides a humane essence (that's why 300 looked like a comic book and went beyond one) perfectly attuned to make a story about alienation, regret and the struggle to survive a changed environment; it's moving rather than trendily "dark." When Kal-El learns his of background, Snyder visualizes the lesson as a bas relief of Krypton's history: figures emerge like engravings on coins burnished by memory; it's as amazing as the hieroglyphics sequence in The Prince of Egypt.
Snyder's consistent intermix of realism and legend upgrades the superhero genre. Cavill's dramatic handsomeness recalls young Sean Connery's exotic virility; his simultaneously otherworldly and legendary aspects suit Snyder's sensuous action style-textured close-ups of skin and capillaries, jet trails in the sky as he flies, his red cape's heavy swoosh. No previous Superman achieved Cavill's perfected gesture of drawing back his right hand when flying to exert physical and spiritual will. Converting iconography from District 9, the Transformer films and Independence Day, Snyder improves on the imagery, giving it a speedy, thrilling roughness, preferable to the usual unimaginatively slick CGI.
What's terrific here is that Snyder expresses Kal-El's force, his will. The yearning to understand himself and his human-likeness gives the film depth. When Kal-El meets the earnest newspaper reporter Lois Lane (Amy Adams) their immediate attraction is so well acted it's deeper than romance. Their passions meet and that's Snyder and Nolan's breakthrough. This is the most stirring, impassioned superhero movie I've ever seen.
By emphasizing Kal-El's conflict with his abilities, desires and his yet uncontrollable circumstances, Snyder discovers his meager genre's richest potential. (One scene offers a beautifully concise Christ-parallel.) Lessons from Kal-El's two fathers are sturdily presented by both Crowe and Kevin Costner (as Jonathan Kent) so that tests of his ideals and his strength against Shannon's Zod (that Frankenstein brow suggesting political warp yet oddly touching like Rutger Hauer's Roy Batty) offer a continuum of masculine being. Eat that Luke Skywalker.
Snyder doesn't cheapen the "S" emblazoned on Superman's chest. "In my world it means 'Hope'" Kal-El says. That's a significant difference from The Dark Knight trilogy's nihilism. The fight against Zod is primarily ethical ("You have developed a sense of morality and we have not-which gives us an evolutionary advantage. If history has taught us anything, it's that evolution always wins.") Yet as Snyder envisions this battle, realism stays in scale with awe-something science can't measure.
As the Supeman-Zod fight escalates so does its 9/11 evocation and Snyder's vision of urban destruction attains the poetry Michael Bay did not, alas, achieve in Transformers III: Dark of the Moon. That evolution comment evokes The Godfather; its implicit "you can kill anybody" suggests 9/11 annihilation which has fed the juvenile thrall of too many comic book movies, Snyder's Superman-symbolizing hope-counters all that. Man of Steel allows sci-fi blockbuster audiences to finally emerge from post-9/11 darkness. Thanks to Zack Snyder's artistry, Man of Steel is The Godfather of superhero movies.

 No.349232

>>349209
Shut the fuck up Yakuza i am tired of you
>>349208
Now we are cooking, that's a good choice

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 No.349236

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Good thread so far, no discordfaggots ruining it so far.

 No.349238>>349249

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 No.349249>>349256

>>349238
I am CIA

 No.349250

>>349208
That reminds me: I forgot about the '60s Adam West Batman show.

 No.349256

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>>349249
So you got yourself caught into capeshit! Now what's the next step in your master plan?

 No.349263>>349267>>349268

>>349207
>power fantasies
Where did this notion of "power fantasy" come from? I can't remember ever self inserting as a strong character in a story and pretending it was me. Not even when I was a kid. I don't think most people could either. People just like stories about incredible individuals doing incredible things, probably for the same reason people like watching others perform stunts or magic tricks. There's just something appealing about the idea of a person doing something most people can't do. It's a universal human trait that has almost certainly existed since prehistoric times. Dismissing it as power fantasy sounds like a bunch of Freudian nonsense.

 No.349267>>349375

>>349263
Every boy wants to be a superhero sometime. You may have noticed it's the most popular type of Halloween costume for them. Perhaps, you've even dressed up as one yourself.

 No.349268>>349313

>>349263
>Where did this notion of "power fantasy" come from?
video games leak into television (and tv criticism) which leaks into writing

 No.349313

>>349268
jewish nonsense and seething which often came from jewish video game journalist if were talking about its origin in today's zeitgeist, but it does originate in (((tv/movie))) criticism.

 No.349317>>349330

Nice choices.
>Spiderman 1&2
<not incuding 3

Here are more
>Batman Returns
>Sky High
>Japanese Spiderman

 No.349330>>349357

>>349317
>be tim burton
>refuse to read batman comics
>make the best batman who just kills people and has autism
Its almost like batcuck was just a bad jewish ripoff of the shadow, I personally prefer Tim "black people don't fit my film's styles" Burton's batman.

 No.349348>>349350

>>349231
> The Legend of the Guardians: The Owls of Ga'Hoole is a masterpiece, I promise you
HE KNOWS

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 No.349353

>>349231
First time I disagree with Based Armond.
Man of Steel was pure slop

 No.349357

>>349330
I agree 100%, and not just because I grew up on Burton, they're objectively better.

 No.349375>>349377>>349407

>>349267
Yes, but I didn't use superhero movies and shows and cartoons as a vehicle to indulge in my fantasies. I watched them because I was genuinely interested in their stories and characters, which inspired me and my friends to come up with our own superhero stories.

 No.349377>>349379

>>349375
>which inspired me and my friends to come up with our own superhero stories
aka power fantasies

 No.349379>>349382

>>349377
You're missing the point. The movies/shows/cartoons themselves were not vehicles for power fantasies for me. And I don't think most people view them that way either.

 No.349382>>349408

>>349379
Let's be honest here, your life in terms of the media you consoomed revolved around capeshit for a period of time, but you just never thought of it as a power fantasy. But, that's what it is.

 No.349407>>349409

>>349375
Why are super hero stories so fuckung stupid?

 No.349408>>349426

>>349382
>your life in terms of the media you consoomed revolved around capeshit for a period of time
No, that never happened. I watched superhero stuff occasionally as a kid, and played superhero with my friends once in a while, but I was never obsessed with it. I was way more into Pokemon and Digimon back then.
>but you just never thought of it as a power fantasy.
Because that's not what it was.
>But, that's what it is
Oh, okay. You convinced me.

 No.349409>>349421

>>349407
Because they're adolescent power fantasies and in the extreme consumerist franchise model of the West they typically exchange hands between different writers.

 No.349421

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>>349230
>Schlinder's Cut

>>349409
Does that include the subtle fetishes such as cuckoldry and bdsm? Same thing with Shonen Jump, however redditors don't find it appealing at all because of its misogyny for fuck's sake, why are they crying over stories aimed at children? :^)

 No.349426>>349427>>349431

>>349408
>I was way more into Pokemon and Digimon back then.
Well, that's not superhero stuff, but it's still a power fantasy, very much so.

 No.349427>>349430

>>349426
You've never watched either of those shows, especially not Digimon where the most interesting episodes were the ones where they were in the real world and couldn't let the monsters be seen or use their powers.

 No.349430>>349433

>>349427
>it's not a power fantasy because there were a couple of episodes where they lose their power to change it up

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>>349426
The Pokemon show is just a shitpost pretty much, the protagonist doesn't win a major tournament for 900+ episodes and the director didn't even want him to that one, the staff had to fight him on it.
Actual power fantasy is stuff like pic related

 No.349432>>349438

>>349431
I'm sick of this trend of series titles being full sentences. It's getting ridiculous.

 No.349433

>>349430
They were entire story arcs, you poser.

 No.349438>>349450

>>349432
It's always been the case in japan

 No.349450

>>349438
I don't recall shows being titled like this much 15+ years ago.

 No.349453

>>349185 (OP)
Is it true there's a Green Arrow comic of him duking it out with the black panthers in Seattle? Enough reason to not get a movie adaptation?

 No.349541>>349543>>349546>>349563

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>>349185 (OP)
The Mask is probably the only western comic-based film that's a genuine cinematic masterpiece rather than just a popcorn flick.

 No.349543

>>349541
It's a comic book movie but does it count as 'capekino'?

 No.349546

>>349541
>what if you found a mask that turned you into a green faggot with special powers fantasy

 No.349563

>>349541
Man of Steel explores deeper themes

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Let's not forget the Teen Titans show.

 No.349791

>>349786
Superman and Lois.

 No.349805

Batman returns and superman v batman

 No.349806>>349809

Even though Val was the worst batman and Tommy hammed it up due to Jim's excellent performance, it was legit.

 No.349809>>349837

>>349806
not bad but not exactly kino

 No.349837>>349857>>349861

>>349809
The sets and cinematography of the first 4 were kino. The Nolan movies were better written but the scale was too grand. The Batman actually hit a nice medium.

 No.349843

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>>349185 (OP)
Do the mutant turtles fall into the superhero genre?

 No.349855

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>>349185 (OP)
>Watchmen movie
>Batman the animated series
>Batman begins
>Justice league early 2000s tv show
>early 2000s teen titans tv show
>The batman triology nolans

 No.349857>>349859

>>349837
>The Nolan movies were better written
>>>/bane/

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>>349857
Your cranial temperature seems to be at a high level so I suggest that someone ought to escort you out

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>>349837
>The Nolan movies were better written

 No.350777

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>>349185 (OP)
A movie about Margot Robbie shitting her undies when?

 No.350780

>>349185 (OP)
Is OP actually making a list or is this thread just to shitpost?

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>>349859
The plane scene was well written.

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>>350785
Too bad they didn't show a Bane looking guy raping Joaquin Phoenix instead of the BrokeBuck Mountain fuckboy.

 No.350851

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>>350849
a true classic



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