/tv/ - Movies and Television

>>345028
That's some transformation, considering those films were only what, 5 years apart?

>>345057
It was six just going off release dates. But yeah, it was a huge transformation. National Lampoon's Vacation and Sixteen Candles were also shot only shot a year apart. The ending to Vacation was shot months after the rest of the movie, and apparently he looked visibly different by that point compared to the rest of the movie.

>>345059
What if the Griswald's were actually just lost in the desert for six months before they finally made it to Wally World?

>Mildred Pierce
I've heard that noir films were simply called melodramas in the days when they were actually being made. Mildred Pierce fits that description better than any other noir I've seen. The murder that the film begins and ends with is typical noir, but everything else is pure melodrama. I don't mean that as an insult, I mean the story something straight out of the literal melodramas from the 19th and early 20th century. Complete with the stock character types: the spoiled, materialistic daughter, the lecherous millionaire playboy, etc. That's not to say it's bad, though. As far as melodramatic movies go, it's probably one of the best. The story never goes too over the top and the acting elevates the parts that would otherwise come off as cheesy.

>The Sea Wolf
Pretty good sea adventure with lots of great black and white cinematography. I liked the story and the characters. Edward G. Robinson plays a sea captain who almost seems like a wannabe Captain Ahab at first, but turns out to be more like the average image board user. The film is obviously a novel adaption that had to condense much of the plot. It feels like it just goes from climax to climax without any room to breath. And some of the events feel like too much of a coincidence. I haven't read the novel, but I assume the screenwriter had to take multiple different events and roll them all into one for the sake of time. Still, it's worth watching if the idea of a psychological drama set in the middle of the pacific ocean sounds interesting to you.

>Pretty in Pink
It's kind of odd how similar Some Kind of Wonderful was to this in terms of plot considering that John Hughes was involved with both and that Some Kind of Wonderful followed only a year after. I consider Some Kind of Wonderful to be the better movie though. Duckie just comes across as an annoying twerp orbiter, which makes him harder to sympathize with. I also felt like the movie was pulling my leg in the scene where Andrew McCarthy's character is introduced like he's some dreamboat. I guess Some Kind of Wonderful is also easier for me to project onto. Putting myself in the shoes of a male lead with this kind of story feels more natural, and that one felt like less of a chick flick because of it.

Pretty in Pink isn't bad, but it's kind of standard.
>Risky Business
I wasn't really sure what to make of it while I was watching it, but I feel more positive about it now. The way Risky Business explores the theme of a straight-laced young man getting corrupted by the love of money distinguishes it from other movies of its type. The plot's not exactly believable, and I found myself thinking what an idiot Joel Goodsen is, but Risky Business is more than a vehicle for wish fulfillment for horny teenage boys.

I'm not really a Tangerine Dream fan, but their music also adds a lot to the experience. I liked how "In the Air Tonight" is used too, which brought to mind the way it was utilized in Miami Vice.

What undermines Risky Business for me is the lack of consequences for any of the shenanigans that occur. The tacked-on theatrical ending also doesn't help in that department, although it does have the better closing line.

Overall I thought it was pretty good.
>Breakfast at Tiffany's
This is the kind of movie I watch just because I feel like I should be familiar with it. It wasn't really my cup of tea. I thought the ending was touching and all, but I guess I feel like a lot of the draw of the movie is Audrey Hepburn being rich, cutesy, and an early '60s fashion icon. Personally speaking, that's not the kind of thing that pulls me in. I also couldn't put myself in Paul Varjak's shoes. Holly Golightly seems like the kind of flaky woman that would just end up breaking your heart down the line, but he's completely smitten with her. I guess I just don't like seeing that kind of relationship start.

It just ended up being another title crossed off a list for me.

>>345059
What's that anime-like movie John Candy is in?

Pretty sure it falls under the isekai category

>>345325
Heavy Metal?

Just finished The Color of Pomegranates. I know very little of Armenian history and even less of Armenian culture, so a lot of this movie went right over my head. I don't understand what the carpets, the chickens, the dances, the gestures, or even the pomegranates are supposed to symbolize. Pomegranate juice, I assume, represents blood. Does that mean the pomegranates themselves are supposed to represent the heart? Or life in general? I assume not every single thing was meant to have a deeper meaning and that some things were just meant to create a certain atmosphere or provoke a particular emotional response, but the movie is still heavily symbolic, and I have no idea what most of the symbols mean because I'm not Armenian. That's a pretty big obstacle for being able to appreciate film.
From what I could piece together, it's about the life of an Armenian poet who grows up in a 18th century (I think; the note at the beginning of the film said it's 18th century, but it also used the term Medieval) Armenia, falls in love with some noblewoman, is forced to become a monk when their affair is found out, then spends the rest of his life living in misery and woe because of all the evil and destruction in the world, and then dies. The film doesn't tell you even that much explicitly, I'm just guessing.
Overall, I think I would have liked it a lot if I understood it.

>>345792
I watched the movie on Skanderbeg and since I knew a bit more about Albanian history I appreciated it more.

This pretty good. It really is like a poor man's Adventures of Robin Hood with Errol Flynn, though. Part of that is because the Zorro story is already similar to the Robin Hood story, but the movie was clearly trying to recreate the success of the Errol Flynn movie, going so far as the have some of the same actors play the same kind of roles. In general, Tyrone Power was like a poor man's Errol Flynn. Neither of them were great actors, but Flynn had enough charisma to compensate.

>>346306
>Part of that is because the Zorro story is already similar to the Robin Hood story
The actual historical figure was much more related to Batman than Robin Hood. Pretty cool overall

This was a pleasant surprise. It's like a lost Hitchcock film, especially the last act.
Charles Laughton was great, as always. The actress who plays Ray Milland's wife was pretty bad, though.

Kino. The Human and Robit relationship development seemed real, which is hard to do in these AI waifu movies. They usually lean towards Men being monsters but this one had peaks on both sides with a satisfying ending in the middle. 9/10

>>347271
How does it compare to ex-machina

>>347274
Way better. In AI Rising the robot functions correctly until the human tries to get creative, even then the robot doesn't have any tendencies to want to destroy/control humans.

>>347278
Yeah I prefer that to the robots are inherently le ebil reddit boogeyman to distract from the real threats irl.

I tried to watch Le Pont du Nord, but had to stop after 45 minutes. It's both boring and stupid. The characters don't feel human at all (which is something I've noticed in a lot of French films post-New Wave).
However, it did have this cute, autistic bikerfu. She's like every fanfiction.net original character brought into the real world.

>>347290
So you gave up on a French film?

>>347290
>She's like every fanfiction.net original character
this is now the reference we will use instead of manic pixie dream girl.

Kino. Actors were all great, sold it well, but it still had that 90's generic directing. I got it recommended by the jewtube algorithm after watching the fbi files episode; they fucking ripped him apart and spit on his grave about his dick implant. The movie didn't put it in so it came off like a crime/romance combo. 8/10

This showed up in my jewtube feed today. Almost 3 hours long. It's in the perspective of Sammy "The Bull" to complete the direct to video trilogy of the story between Big Paulie, Gotti, and Sammy. I highly recommend Boss of Boss of Bosses 2001, Gotti 1996, and Witness to The Mob 1998.

>>347334
forgot muh pic

>>347294
The character isn't really a manic pixie dream girl. She's like a 12 year old girl's idea of a cool biker chick. The film starts with her riding around on her motorcycle, looking at various statues of lions and pumping her fist. She carries a pocket knife that she always opens by pulling the blade out with her teeth. She goes around stealing things and cutting the eyes out of posters for no reason. There's a scene where she wakes up in the morning and does these autistic martial arts poses while yelling.
I can't find any videos of it on YouTube or else I'd post it.

>>347449
Romanticization of the crusty girls; sounds familiar.

I was interested in seeing this one for a while, but I decided to actually watch it once David Lynch was dead. I thought it was perfectly watchable and did a good job exposing Transcendental Meditation for an uninformed person like me but would have preferred less time spent on the director's personal life.

Watched it on tubi. It was kino, Trinity mommy feeding her boy toy tendies. 8/10 better than Warm Bodies.

I was expecting something less conventional, but it's basically a bog-standard Hollywood period movie from that era that just happens to have a strong anti-war theme. I didn't find it to be worth my time.

This is one of the more interesting Bond films I've seen. The characters seem more like real people than usual. Not that they are deep or complex, they just aren't one-dimensional cartoons like you expect in these movies. It has a lot of heart, relatively speaking, as strange as that sounds.
A lot of segments went on longer than they probably should have and the ending was a mess, but that's every Bond film. The real problem is the villains aren't threatening at all. They had two main villains and they decided to make both of them joke characters you're supposed to laugh at. It cheapens the whole thing.
Still, I like it overall. It's by miles my favorite non-Connery Bond movie so far.

>>349479
>they just aren't one-dimensional cartoons like you expect in these movies
It's top 5 Bond but the villains were much more cartoony than before, what are you talking about
>joke characters you're supposed to laugh at
Yeah this is correct, both good actors but given trashy scripts, if they had combined the roles it would've been great, a soviet double agent doing smuggling stuff like Trevelyan did. After all not farfetched, some ruskies did stuff like that and even Zukovsky's character later in the series is an inspiration from that.
Bond was more human due to Dalton doing a good job and getting a decent script that tried to pack too much for its own good to be fair.
>A lot of segments went on longer than they probably should have
This i disagree with, there were too many and some short to be decent, it's two movies mixed into one. Awesome music, has one of the best action sequences in the series too.

Don't really have much to say, but this was more in line with what I would have liked out of Shenandoah. It's grittier and not held back by the standards and conventions of midcentury Hollywood.

As an aside, there are plenty of recognizable actors involved even for someone like me who doesn't watch that many movies from the 2000s. Outside of the starring roles, you've got appearances from Donald Sutherland, Philip Seymour Hoffman, Giovanni Ribisi (who would work with Jude Law again a few years later in Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow), Jack White, Natalie Portman, Ethan Suplee, and Cillian Murphy. I'm glad they went with Jude Law for the lead instead of Tom Cruise. The movie was also edited by Walter Murch.

I think Humble Harv made the right choice by putting money into this one.

>>349498
The chick flick of war movies.

>>349503
I'm not that into love stories, but I liked it in spite of it basically being a romance. It focuses more on the way war affects people and communities than strictly portraying specific events from the Civil War.

>>349481
>what are you talking about
I meant more so Bond, the girl, and some of the other "good" characters.

The first 10-15 minutes about him and his girlfriend are BORING
It gets pretty good after that though. Nice little black comedy that had a bigger budget than you usually see for that genre.

>>349508
Oh, yeah i agree with that, the snow Aston Martin i think is a good example of your idea, very goofy alla Moore when previously there was this tension about smuggling the girl out.
Also shit-tier decision not to stay with Gogol as the entire context of Bond's relationship with the KGB director is with him, not Rhys-Davis.
TLD has many spot-on decisions and many bad ones, it packs too many things.

>>349557
Another movie that was all over the place due to trying to do many things but had a memorable ending, also great OST

>>349583
My guess is they knew people would complain about Dalton's seriousness, so they added the goofy stuff to compensate.
>Also shit-tier decision not to stay with Gogol as the entire context of Bond's relationship with the KGB director is with him, not Rhys-Davis.
According to Wikipedia, it was supposed to be Gogol originally, but the actor who played him was ill. They could have just recast him though since they were already recasting Bond and Moneypenny.

>>349682
>My guess is they knew people would complain about Dalton's seriousness
Nigger cattle audience always ruining things, ironically the next movie is hard as nails compared to TLD due to being compared to american action films.
>it was supposed to be Gogol originally, but the actor who played him was ill
He appeared in the movie anyways as a cameo, supposedly they didn't agree on the fee which is silly as he was a pretty active actor, my guess is that they wanted a new younger face, same with Leiter who was recast again in the next movie.
Broccoli was all over the place with the castings and retarded whim decisions, that was well-known even back then particularly in the 80's

Meh. This was okay I guess. Not nearly as good as The Living Daylights. It was almost more like a Dirty Harry movie at points. The (relatively) more grounded approach was interesting, but it made the silly elements (the ninjas, the guy's head popping in the submarine pod) stick out like a sore thumb. The ending at the cult compound was cool though.

>>349898

Loved her then
Love her now
Simple as!

>>349898
Ending was one of the very best in the series, surprised you didn't think so
>the ninjas
Quite grounded compared to Moore era shenanigans
>head popping in the submarine pod
Not only realistic it still is more subdued than Live and Let Die's balloon death
I though you would like it as much as TLD or similarly

>>349900
Would

>>349936
Liar.

I watched Gimme Shelter recently and this not long after. It's basically a film of footage from ABBA's Australian tour with a tacked-on plot to tie things together a bit. The story is centered on a desperate DJ (played by disgraced child molester Robert Hughes) on an assignment to get an interview with ABBA and constantly failing at it until the end of the movie. It's also interspersed with dull man-on-the-street interview footage of him talking to random members of the public about their thoughts on ABBA, most of which isn't exactly insightful, and some more cinematic bits here and there. I thought the reversed footage in the "I'm a Marionette" sequence felt pretty corny and cheap.

I would've preferred something more straightforward, like a more standard concert film or a documentary focusing on the tour with some musical numbers here and there. I don't think it would appeal to someone who doesn't like ABBA's music.

>>349929
I guess I just prefer the globetrotting Bond films.

>>350055
what was the bond movie where it was revealed the girl was a tranny years later

>>350055
That's understandable, i like it too but Bond movies where you can somewhat think it could happen are my meal, even when the overcomplicated set pieces are my most enjoyed bits (TWINE's london boat chase, OHMSS's embassy papers retrieval, TLD's defection & KGB extraction)

>>350058
IIRC it was a bikini party girl in For Your Eyes Only, in a party where Bond meets/sees the henchman.
In that movie the producer did a lot of questionable decisions, not only in allowing the tranny but also making Bond refuse and deny a fit blonde teen from having fun time with him TWICE on the script, also switching Gian Maria Volonte for Topol because the producer's wife had a great evening with the latter despite the role being written with the former in mind, also because both culprits were hardcore jews.
Doesn't help the main Bond girl was pretty cute but had a mustache shadow, and despite all of this the movie was quite decent if a bit grounded for Bond, shame it could've been considerable better. Also introduced Max the Parrot and behind the scenes the producers got to meet Pierce Brosnan who was then placed as a major candidate for successor; he appeared on the radar because he visited his first wife who played a woman who gets banged and indirectly killed by Bond.

The pros:
>very realistic (actual realism, not just pessimistic brutalism)
>suspenseful final act, even if you already know the ending
>above average cinematography
>characteristically English form of dignified, understated pathos
>Michael Redgrave's performance
>one the characters has a dog named "Nigger"

The cons:
>most of the movie is just the planning stages, the actual attack doesn't happen until around the last half hour
>characters aren't very deep
>the two characters who get the most screen time don't directly take part in the final attack
>the dog dies :'(

It can't compare to Intolerance or The Birth of a Nation, but it still was pretty good. I think the ham-fisted sermonizing about Bolshevism at the beginning brings it down a bit, but that sort of thing isn't unusual for D.W. Griffith. I imagine the fact that I got lazy and watched the movie over three days detracted from the experience.

I think I would have liked it better if the version I watched had been restored properly. I found it strangely difficult to find a good rip and just settled on the best one I could find. I've always been curious about watching America, but if I had that much trouble with Orphans of the Storm I don't know how likely it is that I'd be able to track down a nice rip of it.

lol classic