/art/ - Drawing, Photography, Painting

>>1650
In some ways it's like riding a bike, even if you forgot once you get back to it you'll get good at it much faster than someone who never did it.

>>1650
>I want to get into art again, but is it worth it?
If you go into art without the idea of self-fulfilling your own tastes and ludic needs then you are fucked six days from sunday.

>needing motivation
>needing people's praise/input
>everything being made needs to have some 'worth'

Needing motivation has to be the absolute motivation killer of them all. Countless times I've wasted trying to find ways to "motivate" myself to get something done when I really should just be doing it. The rut you seem to have found yourself in is very relatable, and the first step is acknowledging it. No one get's 'motivated' to go to work and frankly I doubt many actually want to go to begin with, but in order to pay those bills and live that commercialized life you gotta earn that cash.

The best approach is to deal with your personal needs as if they were a job. Set some time for yourself (put an alarm on your phone) and just shit something out. It doesn't need to be top quality or even any good, but something is a million times better than nothing. Make sure you anticipate this time like any other important event you have, don't just ignore it off until the last minute, give yourself some hype. And then when the clock hit's the hour, do something. Fucking pick it up and make anything happen, the PC in front of you, a shitty drawing of a video game character, fuck it, maybe literally scribble 'fuck' over and over on the paper. As long as you're doing action with a pencils and paper you're just reading yourself up for the next meaningful piece.

You are absolutely capable of this. You're lying to yourself if you say you can't.

And don't care what people think, honestly if someone is going to get all pissy and dismissive of your work then fuck them, you don't even need to acknowledge them. They're getting all upset at your work so they can stay upset. If your work can't please them then your continuation of your methods will be a sufficient "fuck you too". and please, whatever you got, feel free to make a thread and post it.

I know I would love to see what you can do and I'm sure there are many others looking forward to the same, we are all friends here. Besides, they board is practically in a vegetative state, so anything is appreciated and will rise much higher than oekaki cock pics.

Overall, making and publishing art is very intimidating, it's a method of visualizing your soul onto others. But if you want to express yourself openly than you gotta start somewhere and this place would be a good start. No one will identiPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1610
hello this is a very touching narration. i m very thankful you ve given something this much… tho obviously "fuck" can get me banned and is an offensive word…. generally i already setup some time for myself but at the end, it is a work andbprofit is the foundation of my motivation if any.


i cant seem to feel anyother from that. visualizing soul or whatever. …

>>1613
>>1613
Most professional artists get to where they are though happenstance, really. Not so much that they chose to get into art in a later stage in life just as a means for a steady income but more so that they grew and developed into the artistic lifestyle because of personal passions and interests to the skill of art. Most professional artists with any sort of respectable notoriety have spent years or even most of their life developing and practicing their skills. Sprinkle in the ability to self market, having good connections, or holding art shows and you have the workings of a profitable skill. But if you have rich parents you can easily skill having skill part.

I'm assuming you're the anon posting about making a webcomic and if so, than that's a tight road to drive down. Most webcomics are very niche and cater to a minor demographic, usually getting their income through donations or merch. And even then you'll probably still have to hold up a regular job just to completely support yourself. Sadly, the days of PennyArcade and Homestuck are at an end. Now a days a good part of the foundation of current day webcomics comes from the artist's own passions to pursue them, not so much that they make a lot of money off of them (because they most likely don't)

If money is your only passion than there's no quicker way to achieve a decent/good income than commissioning furry porn, as sad and disgusting as it is to admit. You don't even need to be that good of an artist. But other than that, there's not too much else I can help you with, but your best bets are probably going to deviantart or furaffinity and lurking there.

The art business is a very self-sacrificing industry. Often times you'll be making the passions of others while having to put off a lot of your own. If you're skilled enough, you can pursue more interesting and creative options for others and be able to generate a more reputable name for yourself. But if skill is what you lack, and money is your only desire, then prepare yourself to become the artistic equivalent of an onlyfans model. It would be more self respecting to just get a regular job at that point. I'm sorry if any of this was disheartening for you to hear but don't be discouraged, if you're passionate aboutPost too long. Click here to view the full text.

>>1612
>he best approach is to deal with your personal needs as if they were a job. Set some time for yourself (put an alarm on your phone) and just shit something out. It doesn't need to be top quality or even any good, but something is a million times better than nothing. Make sure you anticipate this time like any other important event you have, don't just ignore it off until the last minute, give yourself some hype. And then when the clock hit's the hour, do something. Fucking pick it up and make anything happen, the PC in front of you, a shitty drawing of a video game character, fuck it, maybe literally scribble 'fuck' over and over on the paper. As long as you're doing action with a pencils and paper you're just reading yourself up for the next meaningful piece.
Very interesting, not the guy you were replying to but I'll give that a shot.

>>1610
>no motivation
Same, tbh.

gimme me a synopsis of your comic. if i were to see it at the store and read the back of the book for its explanation what does it say?

>>1632
eh synopsis? it looks so smol… i plan to do it later haha

im worried the inside wont sell… is it wrong?

>>1633
Yes it's wrong.
You should consider a good story to get readers invested. You should have imagined a narrative and some characters before you start investing time actually making the comic. Saving the narrative for the last minute doesn't make sense, I mean are you just going to draw a bunch of images and sell that or what? Because if I'm going to read a comic it should atleast have a story.

I got a video for you

>>1628
It definitely is, it kept being shown in theaters all over the country year after year and Tommy would visit the events.

>>1629 hmmmm, how much is "definitely". he wont be getting any emmys or eisner…. so it ll still win?

>>1629

if anything tommy wiseau looks like a clasical actor thrown from the past right to the futrue. https://youtu.be/UBOcWFBBB04

>>1630
He was considered so interesting that a movie was made about him and his movie. How many have accomplished that? He and The room will be remembered for much longer than Parasite will, no magic the accolades it got. He's achieved something others don't even dare to dream about: he's transcended time.

>>1631
He was going for that performance but never understood why it worked with James Dean in that scene. Like an ET, he tried to imitate something he saw celebrated and did it outside of the context where it made sense.

>>1599 i mean why?

>where should i go and what should i achieve?
Social media. Either start up a twitter, Instagram or facebook page (or all three) and start establishing yourself as an artist online. Post anything and everything you go or want to show whether it be some sloppy sketches or some finished work. It's difficult and takes some time and effort as well as some of your own pride, but if it's something you want to achieve it will be worth it.

People much prefer finished work over pencil work, so either work on line work or play around with something like photoshop and that will really help give your style a more redefined look. For me, photoshop is pricey and requires you learning another skill (photoshop) so a good start will be investing in those Micron pens. They got a good amount of thicknesses to use between shading and line work.

>>1606 so basically you re saying there isnt a job for this.

>>1601
People don't really value abstract ideas on a general basis, for example everyone can agree a good electrician can get things done and fixed but a good painter will get opposition as some might say a photographer is more effective and cheap, some others might say a sketch artist/draftsman is also cheaper and quicker, so on and so on.
Same happens with musicians, some say a jukebox or a stereo is enough, an artist will always get people doubting them due to their value not being seen by everyone. An artist has to pander to a certain sub-group to have constant work and the more niche/specialized the harder it is, hence why the most successful artists are either friends of a very rich eccentric, a stylistic whore with no integrity and/or a money launderer. Successful doesn't always mean best, in fact it usually is the opposite but some exceptions exists and they should not be seen as rule of thumb, they are oddities, most accomplished artists died without knowing they were/would be cherished.

>>1614
There is if you are able create the need for your work.

>>1535
Sorry, he uses a similar moniker sometimes.
Nice going buddy, i wanted to use /loomis/ but nobody posts there anymore, just did a single post until i realized they went kaput to maybe another place.
I will see if i can scribble a bit here while practicing my own stuff too. How about posting our progress in /loomis/ too as a side activity?

>>1558
Yeah, man! I'll look forward to seeing your stuff!
>How about posting our progress in /loomis/ too as a side activity?
That's not a too shabby of an idea. I'm gonna work on doing their's as well and hopfully the two will help out my drawing skills

Late

>>1584
Better late than never! It's fantastic!! :)

hallo art do you know webcomic too

Color theory helps a lot, with realism you'll not only have to know to make specific colors, but be able too properly contrast those colors in different lights with black and white. Here's a simple explanation: https://colormatters.com/color-and-design/basic-color-theory

Best way to do get started if you want to get right into painting imo, is painting flowers. They have a good monocratic range of colors in their pallet, plus their fairly easy to master if you give it some time. You'd be surprised how much you can achieve with just red, blue, yellow, black and white.

Getting to know how to create realistic images does take time. If learning about light and shading is your goal, invest in some gray paper and some white and black (or blue or whatever) charcoal. The gray paper is a good middle ground for you to work with light and dark. It can be a little confusing for some, but as long as you sketch out what you want in pencil and fill in the light (white) and dark (black/blue/etc) you should be good.

Hope this helped and remember to have fun with it!

>>1604
here's the example of charcoal I tried to post to give you an idea.

>>1604
>gray paper
coloured construction paper works fine too

>>1604
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>>1607
ok ok this has been nice tx very much

That bitch scary as a mf

>>1578
>>1581
I think she's cute

why is her ass so big

>>1564
Yes, always make sure to have plenty of pencils around

>>1553
>>1555
Oy, just realized it, you are the /ck/ guy aren't you?
Where did /ck/ go

>>1567
I dunno, am not him

>>1568
Lots of people have marble/granite tables then.
Will clean my workspace and work on your stuff sometime later this week then.

>>1569
Oh yeah, no that's my desk. I guess I was expecting that to be some sort of troll, but yeah, either way I'll look forward to seeing what you have :)