/lit/ - Literature and Writing★

Being only motivated by money will do that. People who only care about money have nothing interesting to say even to normalfags.

>>2567 (OP)
Why do you imply characteristics that decrease sales and make a work interesting are one in the same? I'd argue there are many books that are very interesting but wouldn't sell well because they aren't palatable for normies. For example racism, which is based.

Draw A Turner Diaries

You bring up a lot of stuff and some of its wrong. Basically traditional publishing is dead, but those places might help get you into conventions and stuff to sell your book. Generally though regular old publishing houses are really poor at helping authors and really tend to open them up to scams like paying to join a club so you can vote on the Nebulas and get nothing else in return. Publishers don't give you any help with insurance, taxes, and any other number of the side aspects of being a writer. Writers that work hard get ahead and most already in the traditional publishing world would self-publish if they could.
I personally think books are going to get more popular as people get bored of shitty videogames and movies. A book is literally like the most expensive and personal movie without any compromises or shortcomings that either of those first modifiers normally require. And self published digital books can be sold for like $4 and still come out good for the author so it's a low investment for prospective customers.
I feel like if you like writing you should do it because you enjoy doing it, but also the goal of writing is to be read. It's just imaginary without that. But writing just for money sucks, I remember this reddit for erotic writers existed and I read through their stuff: a) they escaped the world of a dayjob but they had to spend the same amount of time looking up fetishes to make books on and b) they basically all needed to write a book a month (it's porn so it's not like a real books but still they needed a new product every month) and c) they had a big problem with categories. Like maybe there's not a lot of inflation erotica so they would start making that and it would sell well enough for a bit then get overcrowded and they needed to move to piss books. Anyways they wrote so much for work none of them actually worked on that good novel they wanted to write.
If you really want to make money it's trying to find an unfulfilled market need, it's research, it's a lot of extra stuff. Very few people get to be Stephen King and write piss and get paid for it.
Write because you enjoy it, put it out so it can have a life, try and get it reviewed to help that goal, and possibly buy some ads for it.

Humanity is over, so…

>>1737 (OP)
>cuckime

Unironically get with an indie publishing house. Unlike major publishers they're not in a position to strongarm you, but unlike self-publishing they can still hook you up with things like cover art, marketing, and printing.

It's definitely true that less people are reading new books though. There's not a lot you can do about that except shill your book here like that anon did on /tv/ for his movie.

>>1737 (OP)
> It seems like the only people who read new works of fiction are children and middle-aged women, and they only read books written put out by major publishers.
May depend on where you look?
> and even then they'll force you to fill your story with pozz.
Depends on the publisher.
You ever heard about Larry Correia? He seems to do fairly well. He's competent, but not exactly Kipling. Obviously, he doesn't publish in Tor or other soy farms.
There's this, for example: https://amzn.to/2i3RVv5
And this: https://amzn.to/3f4d7v6

Anyhow, already published authors tend to give advise to the effect of: don't expect it to be your primary source of income.

>>1738
>Publishers don't give you any help with insurance, taxes
…droit du signeur. Anon… If you want to be a serf anyway, at least do it on fresh air.

thanks for the sticky but lol i dont read cuz i aint gay lel so ok

The second novel blues is almost unavoidable. Writers block is usually something that gets better on its own except for when it doesn't. Write several books and then safe deposit them for when you absolutely have to publish something to satisfy the publishers. That way when they come knocking for that yearly release and you cant write you can release the new book and still get paid.

>>2774
Horror erotica.

>>2776
Nice.

>>2777
It's shameful, but eh, it's a living…

>>2772
That was painful to read

>>2754 (OP)
John Stone, Rick Lance, Bill Hunter.

>>2754 (OP)
Ben Dover
Hugh Janus
Harry Balzac

Grebbut Grobbit

Travis Scott

Draw a space marine?

>>2816 lol, like naruto?

>>2819
Like Travis Scott.

i mean like othr than punctuations and grammar, what makes it actually readable, consistent, and finally top grossing?

how do you keep writing/the story consistent too?

Make an overall arc, draw a space marine, and remember everyone is an npc who only cares about style every now and then and how well you can market it initially

>>2801 whats the minimum average quality of it is what i am asking.

>>2802
Average quality is consistency, things don't need to be perfect rather they need to be dependable

>>2803
Consistency is cringe, tbh. It should always be a gamble.

And this one for fiction shit.
Sometimes I go so far as vidya or classical stuff, but the less distracting the better

>>2638
Not if the bridge went over land

>>2639 like grand canyon?
you d need to make sure it lands on the head
and not spinning out of control

>>2640
I'd hit you with a rock like the ones on the ground. They'd never know.

>>2641
so you need to go down and pick up some rocks first? it mustbe a big rock

>>2644
No, dummy, a fragment is enough. Just like in Killer Elite.