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What's the best edition for The Silmarillion and The Hobbit? I'd rather avoid compilations since they'll probably include The Lord of the Rings and I already have it.
Thank you.


Don't really think it matters unless you're trying to get a translated version or care about illustrations.

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Are things really as bad as they seem for aspiring authors? It seems like the only people who read new works of fiction are children and middle-aged women, and they only read books written put out by major publishers. I heard to get your stuff published by one of them you have to either already have some kind of following or you have to ghostwrite for someone else for awhile, and even then they'll force you to fill your story with pozz.
There's always self-publishing but does anyone read self-published works of serious fiction? There are so many other self-published books flooding the market that the chances of someone even coming across your book, let alone reading it, seem very slim.
I know getting into writing to make money is silly but what's the point of putting your work out there in the first place if no one is going to read it?


You bring up a lot of stuff and some of its wrong. Basically traditional publishing is dead, but those places might help get you into conventions and stuff to sell your book. Generally though regular old publishing houses are really poor at helping authors and really tend to open them up to scams like paying to join a club so you can vote on the Nebulas and get nothing else in return. Publishers don't give you any help with insurance, taxes, and any other number of the side aspects of being a writer. Writers that work hard get ahead and most already in the traditional publishing world would self-publish if they could.
I personally think books are going to get more popular as people get bored of shitty videogames and movies. A book is literally like the most expensive and personal movie without any compromises or shortcomings that either of those first modifiers normally require. And self published digital books can be sold for like $4 and still come out good for the author so it's a low investment for prospective customers.
I feel like if you like writing you should do it because you enjoy doing it, but also the goal of writing is to be read. It's just imaginary without that. But writing just for money sucks, I remember this reddit for erotic writers existed and I read through their stuff: a) they escaped the world of a dayjob but they had to spend the same amount of time looking up fetishes to make books on and b) they basically all needed to write a book a month (it's porn so it's not like a real books but still they needed a new product every month) and c) they had a big problem with categories. Like maybe there's not a lot of inflation erotica so they would start making that and it would sell well enough for a bit then get overcrowded and they needed to move to piss books. Anyways they wrote so much for work none of them actually worked on that good novel they wanted to write.
If you really want to make money it's trying to find an unfulfilled market need, it's research, it's a lot of extra stuff. Very few people get to be Stephen King and write piss and get paid for it.
Write because you enjoy it, put it out so it can have a life, try and get it reviewed to help that goal, and possibly buy some ads for it.


Humanity is over, so…




Unironically get with an indie publishing house. Unlike major publishers they're not in a position to strongarm you, but unlike self-publishing they can still hook you up with things like cover art, marketing, and printing.

It's definitely true that less people are reading new books though. There's not a lot you can do about that except shill your book here like that anon did on /tv/ for his movie.

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Does reading make you smarter?


No. Reading makes you dumb.


Good thing I don't know how to read, huh?

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What are some good audiobooks I can download from Audiobookbay?


I find a lot of Shakespeare productions are pretty high end. A quick perusal and I couldnt see if you can sort by production company but Tantor and Blackstone have been really good to me. The War of the Worlds usually has that radio program as an audiobook.


I very much enjoyed Paul Giamatti's reading of A Scanner Darkly.


Serotonin by Michel Houellebecq

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Recommend me some essential /hitlercore/
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Ilsa She-Wolf of the SS


Was there actually a novelization of that? Back in the day a lot of movies had tie-in novels, so it wouldn't surprise me if someone cranked out a novel for Ilsa.




Attack on Titan


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Written in the middle of the 19th century, Debit and Credit (AKA Soll und Haben) by Gustav Freytag is a very interesting work. It was one of the most popular and critically acclaimed German novels ever written until 1945. Supposedly wealthy German fathers would buy it as a gift for their sons when they reached adulthood because of it's encapsulation of Prussian middleclass values. The reason it fell out of favor after WWII is because of it's negative portrayals of Jews and Poles, although not all Jews and Poles in the novel are villains. The main story is about a young German businessman who gets caught up in a struggle between a declining Silesian aristocratic family and Jewish moneylenders.
All the social and political aspects aside, it's just a well written novel. It strikes a unique balance between romanticism and realism which makes it very enjoyable to read if you like old literature.


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an oaldie but guudie, awldoe eet ain't technically a boundid tome per se -

The Philmarillion, duh artistic stalkean expose/rhubricized nightmaer fixation awn sum zebrabawl /sp/ tripfag gnamed UTV:

i noe whew wrote this btw %^x but we ain't snitch-snitchean aot the jitt-jittens raond hurr >%^)


I don't know how to read, though. Where should I start?


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Where am I suppose to be able to find books? Amazon a shit, Barnes & Noble a shit, there ain't shit worth of bookstores around me. I have money and I must spend it on reading. My particular itch is for Bavarian history and non-Roman European history.
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Why is that gook begging to get throatfucked?


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if u have money get a deluxe ebook reader
and dial up libgen.rs and trantor.is and download everything


That is the natural state of all gooks. They crave the BWC pulsating in their throats.


For Gutenberg and all the majors wikis datasets you can download them in their entirety over at
Then you can read them with a .zim file reader or host your own local server and access it through your web browser.

If you need to spend money go to thrift or second hand stores for a huge variety. Universities and libraries used to have book fairs back in the pre-COVID days that were pretty good. Some of my favorite books were found there by accident.


Alibris has always served me well. Used book stores in meatspace (the local kind, not half-price books, etc.) have nice finds as well.

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Please suggest books to read which are considered the foundation of western literature. No cuck shit.

So far I have:
The Divine Comedy
The Canterbury Tales
The Death of Arthur
Orlando Furioso
Jerusalem Delivered
The Faerie Queene
Paradise Lost
The Pilgrim's Progress
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>t. seething redditors


>imagining each of those nations writers were not reading each other and thus heavily influential to each other
>imagining that they do not share common sources for ideas and traditions.


About Don Quixote: before reading it check out at least one knight epic referenced in his library, some get thumbed through by the monk and some other guy when they are about to burn it in Part I.

It's amazing reading Amadís de Gaula and realizing it is better than anything the people that wax poetry about Quixote and the jump to contemporary literature have ever written.


Omg! Quick! Someone yell all you can eat KFC outside with Diet Coke to get that kid out of that thing!


>Orlando Furioso
Read Orlando Innamorato first.

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What did he mean by this?
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Anonymous is best author.
He wrote:
>The Epic of Gilgamesh
>The Egyptian Book of the Dead
>The Elder Edda
>The Nibelungenlied
>The Song of Roland
>The Song of My Cid
>Sir Gawain and the Green Knight
and countless other works that single-handedly btfo Dante and Shakespeare's entire bibliographies.



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Video games are the only true litrature


Zork is literature


reminder that this jew dude started gamegate

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Post all personal writing projects (zines/poetry collections/essays/fiction/etc.) or links to such in this thread.
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After getting #MeToo'd in 2017 the controversial award-winning comedian turned social activist, Louis C.K. had withdrawn from the spotlight and rumours began to circulate online and in the press. There were rumours that he had travelled to Africa or had died during the BLM protests, but after months of research it became known that he had become a monk and cult leader, and that he and his followers and acquired a large estate in the so-called "Borscht Belt" of the Catskill Mountains. The site had been a former holiday resort, but had now been transformed into a religious commune. Some claimed it was a degenerate and nefarious sex cult funded by Jews, while others discarded this and referred to them as harmless truthseekers with an alternate view on race relations.

In order to get to the bottom of this and confirm or deny the allegations we set out to visit their compound and to talk to the man himself.

Opinion in the nearby town appeared to be heated, though none of the denizens wished to speak to us, or any other outsiders. Only the local sheriff agreed to talk to us, though he had to cut the interview short since he was rather busy at the moment due to the disappearance of two hitchhikers in the nearby Catskill Park. Six young white women had gone missing in the area in the span of just four months. "It began around the time these cultists moved in," the sheriff said. "Of course," he quickly clarified, "I do not mean to insinuate that the two are connected in any way. The two events merely happened to coincide."

With our worries thus put to rest we began on our journey towards the cult's estate in good spirits, eager to speak to the now so reclusive comedian. As we drove along the road we could not help but notice that a great number of houses appeared to be empty and boarded up, while others had for sale signs put up.

A long, winding dirt road cut through the densely forested wilderness for miles and miles. After a while we reached our destination and were greeted by a large portal of solid timber. The name of the former holiday resort had been graffitti'd over with the name "Blackhaven".

We were greeted by a representative we had contacted beforehand, who had agreed to show us around. Our arrival attracted some attention from the members of the cult, who eyed us suspiciously.

As we made our way through the main camp we noticed a large clearing some distance off, and in the middle there appeared to be the remainPost too long. Click here to view the full text.


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a fate werse den the psionic rivenin endemic 2 ne lovecraftian yarn…awlmoast moar deserved awn /truth/ tbh


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Yes, indeed! I did draw inspiration from several /truth/-related sources to write that awful thing. When the idea that entered my mind I just couldn't get rid of it till I had hastily written it down. Normally I would just banish it to a folder and never look at it again, but I thought that perhaps some of the /lit/yzens might find it amusing or entertaining, in whole or just bits and parts of it.
Think I've exhausted the cast of tvch related characters to write about now, so I've no idea where to go next, though I would like to try and write something serious, not just hiding behind a masque of parody and pastiche in the style of Poe Post too long. Click here to view the full text.


That was a great read, also Catskill Mountains being both the original place of the Nuwaubian cult and a Lovecraftian setting really helps bridge things together.
I went for a /truth/ adjacent story for the upcoming issue of the Feuilleton too but honestly it's not quite on the same level, it's low grade pulp I hacked together.


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The phone rang.
Yakuza heard a female voice on the other side of the line.
"Surprised, hapafag? This time I'm going to shut you up for good."
The blood drained from his face. This couldn't be true. How could that autistic French housewife have tracked him down? He always used a mobile phone to post.
"Looks like I have already succeeded. HA HAHA HAHAHA!" she said almost surrendering her will to her sinister laughter.
"H-how did you find me?"
"TA GUEULE HAPAFAG! You don't talk if I don't tell you to! But to answer your question, you have bought Priscilla albums this month haven't you?"
"I was the seller. I know your phone number, your city, your address and even your email now. And even worse, I've located your Suavelos profile. God, I never thought it could be more embarrassing than what you post on my board."
Yakuza hanged up. "Good. -she told herself- Maybe this time he means it"
The very next day, he was posting on her board again like nothing happened.


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